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Old 01-21-2019, 11:49 AM #25971
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Yea stick around a while and read what most of these morons say, your opinion will change very fast. Reading the crap put on this site I always wonder country they live in.

Reading the leftists here I consider most of them to be just flat out stupid and/or traitors of the U.S. Facts don't matter to these idiots here, the truth means nothing to these people.

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Old 01-21-2019, 12:19 PM #25972
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We're private sector people, so we dont rely on the Government.

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This should be a lesson though on how bloated the Federal government is. We been shutdown a month now, and I've not even noticed. Most people in my circle say the same thing.
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Unemployment, free loans from banks, whos going to work without pay?
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:53 PM #25975
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democrats and voters alike should stop freeloading from the government and make your own damn money.
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We're private sector people, so we dont rely on the Government.

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This should be a lesson though on how bloated the Federal government is. We been shutdown a month now, and I've not even noticed. Most people in my circle say the same thing.
You trumpsters are something else man, you have 0 empathy, people are not getting paid no matter if u think the government is bloated or not. You all hate people that dont work and collect welfare, then you hate on honest working people that get paid because you think there are to many of them.These are people that pass background checks and 40% are veterans. Most are underpaid but do the work so they can have medical benefits.

& you are not affected because people are still working without pay. 30days in and loyal feds are still going to work so your everyday freedoms are protected. Imagine if CBP, ICE, and the FBI just walked out? Also Health and Human Services is closed, meaning the USDA & FDA are both closed. How long do you think investigators are going to work? You do know these investigators check all your food that comes in from other countries?

Also just because it doesnt effect your small circle of friends, there are a lot more people in the USA that are affected. 1 group that jumps out is Native Americans, the Health and Human Services with the Bureau of Indian Affairs takes care of Native Americans in every way.

Now let me ask, would you remain loyal to your "private sector" job if they couldnt pay you? Unlike what you MAGA's think, a lot of us Fed workers enjoy serving our country and citizens. Sure there are lazy people but thats everywhere, a majority of people are not.

If you want to cut the fat off the government, start mandatory retiring people and do a hiring freeze. Once the hiring freeze if lifted, put a 3 year probation on new employees. Also all new employees should be subject to a newer retirement system that more beneficial to the government. Trump once again has the wool pulled over your eyes and NO i am not cheerleading for the Dems, its just true. There are much simpler solutions than the rhetoric his administration is pushing.

And to be honest I would never want to hear you werent getting paid but it seems like such a sick thrill to Trump supporters that Government workers are going without.
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Old 01-21-2019, 01:02 PM #25977
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Unemployment, free loans from banks, whos going to work without pay?
A loan you have to pay back.

And I have had to go into work a few times without pay. And there are scientists at our lab right now working on a small outbreak(likely salmonella or E Coli) as we type.

As for me, I have a part time jobs with Parks and Recs in a nearby city so my small check, + my chicks, & savings is getting me by but this is some BS.

If trump wanted to play hardball, he shouldve started going after the DACA's and deporting them BUT hes taking away pay from rightful citizens, many of which have served this country. This is all BS and you Trumpsters dont see it. DOD can easily afford to build the wall on the northern and southern border if they wanted to.

BUT again this isnt about the wall, this is about the rise of far right Capitalism.
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You trumpsters are something else man, you have 0 empathy, people are not getting paid no matter if u think the government is bloated or not. You all hate people that dont work and collect welfare, then you hate on honest working people that get paid because you think there are to many of them.These are people that pass background checks and 40% are veterans. Most are underpaid but do the work so they can have medical benefits.

& you are not affected because people are still working without pay. 30days in and loyal feds are still going to work so your everyday freedoms are protected. Imagine if CBP, ICE, and the FBI just walked out? Also Health and Human Services is closed, meaning the USDA & FDA are both closed. How long do you think investigators are going to work? You do know these investigators check all your food that comes in from other countries?

Also just because it doesnt effect your small circle of friends, there are a lot more people in the USA that are affected. 1 group that jumps out is Native Americans, the Health and Human Services with the Bureau of Indian Affairs takes care of Native Americans in every way.

Now let me ask, would you remain loyal to your "private sector" job if they couldnt pay you? Unlike what you MAGA's think, a lot of us Fed workers enjoy serving our country and citizens. Sure there are lazy people but thats everywhere, a majority of people are not.

If you want to cut the fat off the government, start mandatory retiring people and do a hiring freeze. Once the hiring freeze if lifted, put a 3 year probation on new employees. Also all new employees should be subject to a newer retirement system that more beneficial to the government. Trump once again has the wool pulled over your eyes and NO i am not cheerleading for the Dems, its just true. There are much simpler solutions than the rhetoric his administration is pushing.

And to be honest I would never want to hear you werent getting paid but it seems like such a sick thrill to Trump supporters that Government workers are going without.
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democrats and voters alike should stop freeloading from the government and make your own damn money.
Federal workers do make their own damn money. I pay taxes just like you do every check.

Its odd that people want to see others not get paid. Its odd that the same people that dont have health and other benefits wanna see me and 799,999 people not have any just like them.

I served this country honorably, I have 2 college degrees, I own a home, I volunteer locally. I have done the things that since I was in elementary school I was told to do (live the American dream). Its a shame that people are jealous and want to see me and my family suffer because others that didnt accomplish what I have and dont have a decent paying job like me with minimal benefits.

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You trumpsters are something else man, you have 0 empathy, people are not getting paid no matter if u think the government is bloated or not.
That's the problem right here in a nutshell.

You debate based on emotions, I debate based on facts.

Let's stick to just the facts please, and leave emotion out. Emotion clouds good judgement.

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You all hate people that dont work and collect welfare, then you hate on honest working people that get paid because you think there are to many of them.These are people that pass background checks and 40% are veterans. Most are underpaid but do the work so they can have medical benefits.
Again more emotion, with a strawman thrown in.

Nowhere did I say I hate anyone on this.

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Imagine if CBP, ICE, and the FBI just walked out?
Again, let's stick to facts please.

Fyi, those folks you cited are "essential" and thus getting paid.

Makes you wonder why we need the "non-essential" ones on furlough, doesnt it.....

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Also Health and Human Services is closed, meaning the USDA & FDA are both closed. How long do you think investigators are going to work? You do know these investigators check all your food that comes in from other countries?
And they do a crappy job.

A few months ago they missed the deadly ice cream contamination at Blue Bell. A few weeks ago they let a bunch of Romaine lettuce make it to the shelves with deadly bacteria.

We're constantly having this happen where we have food recalls.

If those folks did a good job, that wouldnt be happening.

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Now let me ask, would you remain loyal to your "private sector" job if they couldnt pay you? Unlike what you MAGA's think, a lot of us Fed workers enjoy serving our country and citizens. Sure there are lazy people but thats everywhere, a majority of people are not.
To answer your question, I'd leave and get a new job that paid me.

Maybe these government workers should try that.

But lets be real here. They are getting every penny back in back pay when the shutdown ends, and all the while their still racking up time on duty that goes towards their pensions.

Pensions us taxpayers pay for.
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