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Old 11-12-2018, 04:41 PM #21
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Ward had trouble with Kovalev. Usyk is 32lbs bigger & 3x better than Kov probably. Ward is only beating Usyk in his dreams. I don't think it'd even be a good move for him to comeback to fight Usyk. I like his chances vs Wilder or Joshua more than Usyk cuz he could outslick Wilder or Joshua. He's not outslicking Usyk.
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:47 PM #22
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Either you underrate Kovs skill a lot or overrate Usyk a lot but both are top tier operators.
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:49 PM #23
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They can meet up in HW then. Random thought: You know the moment Usyk performs well at HW he will become Juisyk to half the "fans" anyway.
C'mon man, don't do this...
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Wards a winner. You dont have to like his style, attitude, or nationality. Just respect the man as a winner and aknowledge he'd be Usyk's biggest challenge as an amateur or pro.

Give Ward 1 tune-up at CW and he decisions Usyk and stops him late in a rematch...

lmao,

Usyk has the Ward blueprint.

Ward would break his hand punching Usyk.

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Old 11-12-2018, 04:57 PM #25
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give ward 3 tune ups and he can win a robbery in the first usyk fight. second fight he comes back with a vengeance and wins legit with a ball ko. all he does is win
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:58 PM #26
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lmao,

Usyk has the Ward blueprint.

Ward would break his hand punching Usyk.

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ward doens't need his hands to win fights. did you miss the all he does is win part? that means he will use or do anything in order to win.
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Old 11-12-2018, 05:00 PM #27
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Old 11-12-2018, 05:03 PM #28
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Wards a winner. You dont have to like his style, attitude, or nationality. Just respect the man as a winner and aknowledge he'd be Usyk's biggest challenge as an amateur or pro.

Give Ward 1 tune-up at CW and he decisions Usyk and stops him late in a rematch...
Ward is a great fighter and a first ballot HOF hands down but to say he would stop Usyk is a bit improbable. If he has to beat Usyk and it is a very big IF, it would likely be a extremely close decision much like the first Kovalev fight.

I would still favor Usyk though with his movement and footwork the guy his size. Plus, he is naturally bigger and stronger than Ward.
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Old 11-12-2018, 05:05 PM #29
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As much as I love Andre Ward this fight would be all wrong for him. He won't win. There are weight divisions for a reason and I just cannot see S.O.G. Moving up two to three weight divisions challenging a man who is not only naturally younger, larger and stronger than himself but is also very skilled with an extensive amateur pedigree as well; Which means he knows all the fundamentals and can fight.
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Either you underrate Kovs skill a lot or overrate Usyk a lot but both are top tier operators.
Kov's is/was an excellent fighter. But never at the top of my P4P list. Hypothetically I do not see him even at the same weight better than Usyk. Now add 25lbs difference between K and Usyk, that would be a one sided fight.

Personally of the four most prominent Eastern Euros (since these guys all get lumped together) I think P4P here is how I would place them at their peak either now or in the past:

Usyk - I think what he does at his size is amazing.
Loma - he is great, but at his weight I don't think the gap in uniqueness is as vast as it is between Usyk and his opposition.
Golovkin - I like him much better than the two above but their movement offsets Golovkin's better P4P power.

Kovalev - excellent fighter but a level below the guys above. And Usyk and Loma might be a level above Golovkin. K is the kind of guy who could beat top notch fighters (like I believe he did Ward in the first fight) but I would put him just a level below.
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