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    http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/10...-higher-boxing

    Study: MMA brain injury risk higher


    ALBANY, N.Y. -- About one-third of professional mixed martial arts matches end in knockout or technical knockout, indicating a higher incidence of brain trauma than boxing or other martial arts, according to a new study in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

    University of Toronto researchers examined records and videos from 844 Ultimate Fighting Championship bouts from 2006 to 2012 for the study published this month. They found that 108 matches or nearly 13 percent ended in knockouts. Another 179 matches, or 21 percent, ended in technical knockouts, usually after a combatant was hit in the head five to 10 times in the last 10 seconds before the fight was stopped.


    An American Journal of Sports Medicine study found that one-third of professional MMA matches end in knockout or technical knockout, indicating a higher incidence of brain trauma than boxing. Josh Hedges/Zuffa LLC/Getty Images
    "We're taking the premise with this that what you see on TV is one thing, but to kind of add scientific rigor to document it objectively," said Michael Hutchison, co-author and director of the concussion program at the university's MacIntosh Sports Medicine Clinic.

    With the technical knockouts, or TKOs, they reviewed videos and found "an increasing number of repetitive strikes to the head" during the last 30 seconds of a match, he said.

    Professional mixed martial arts includes elements of wrestling, judo, boxing and kickboxing inside an enclosure with fighters wearing small, fingerless gloves and no headgear.

    Officials from UFC, the sport's major brand, seeking approval to stage bouts in New York have argued that mixed martial arts has evolved over 20 years with many safety regulations to protect fighters, including mandatory suspensions after concussions. They say it's safer than boxing, where fighters tend to take repeated blows from padded gloves, with no history of deaths or traumatic brain injuries sustained in the ring.

    Lawrence Epstein, chief operating officer of UFC, called the Toronto study "somewhat flawed" and said a forthcoming study by researchers who have enrolled nearly 400 active and retired fighters will provide better insight.

    "By partnering with the Cleveland Clinic, one of the world's leading medical research institutions, on advanced studies aimed at not only preventing long-term brain injuries, but also identifying those predisposed to them, the UFC demonstrates true commitment to the safety of all professional athletes," Epstein said.

    Preliminary results from the Cleveland studies found athletes with higher exposure to head trauma -- based on a formula including number of fights, years fighting and fights per year -- were likelier to score lower on cognitive testing. Researchers conducting the free, ongoing assessments of fighters' brain health are examining factors like genetics, lifestyle or head trauma exposure and susceptibility to injury.

    The Toronto researchers, who examined UFC matches, found the time from a knockout blow -- often a punch to the jaw -- until matches were stopped averaged 3.5 seconds with losers on average getting hit 2.6 more times to the head. With TKOs, they found that in the last 30 seconds before a match was stopped the loser was hit on average 18.5 times, 92 percent of those to the head.

    Hutchison acknowledged that unlike the knockouts, which meet the criteria for brain concussions, they can't definitively identify the particular injury from a TKO. Professional rules say that happens when a referee stops a fight because one competitor can no longer defend himself. "We can accurately suggest ... this can't be good for their health," he said.

    Citing data from other research, the study said the mixed martial arts head trauma rate also outpaces football and hockey.

    The researchers proposed introducing rules like in boxing where a fighter gets a 10-second count and evaluated after a knockdown. They also proposed more training to help referees to identify fighters who are defenseless or have lost consciousness so they can stop fights more quickly.

    "Given that participation at amateur levels of the sport is growing rapidly, we expect to see high rates of traumatic brain injuries at more junior levels of amateur competition," the researchers wrote. "These points strongly argue for banning the sport in youth and for preventive strategies to reduce the burden of traumatic brain injuries in professional MMA fighters who elect to fight."

    Hutchison wasn't saying whether mixed martial arts should be legal or not, only that adults should know the risks so they can make informed decisions. People are inherent risk takers, and some do it with drinking, smoking, skydiving or other activities, but they should be aware, he said.

    Most states have legalized and regulated professional mixed martial arts although some are silent on the matter. New York is the only state that prohibits such fights and longstanding efforts to get it legalized recently stalled again for advocates hoping to gain access to Madison Square Garden and other New York venues.

    The state Senate has passed the bill for several years and put it in a proposed budget for the upcoming fiscal year, but it has not cleared the state Assembly.

    New York state Sen. Joseph Griffo sponsored legislation that would legalize the sport and subject amateur mixed martial arts to state oversight that would include more stringent rules and regulations like those employed by amateur boxing. Regulation would also help the state go after the underground fights with paying audiences that are occurring now, especially in New York City, he said.

    "I think everybody would agree the objective is to be very sensitive and do everything possible with preventing trauma to the head," Griffo said. "I don't think in any way that should prevent the sport."

  • #2
    ALBANY, N.Y.

    That's all you need to know about this report.

    MMA is the much safer of the two sports. MMA has 4 oz gloves whereas boxing has heavier gloves resulting in more damage. In boxing you are constantly punching and the fights are longer.

    MMA is the safer more popular sport. It has the better athletes and the better fighters too. Boxing is my love and favorite sport but the numbers don't lie.

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    • #3
      boxing has more padding in the gloves but the fights are longer - more punches to the head. old boxers still have less brain damage from concussions than pro football players, even NHL hockey players get a lot of concussions. MMA hasn't been around long enough to compare the old brains of dead fighters with football players who died from CTE, we'll have to wait for the old school UFC fighters to die so doctors can examine their brains

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      • #4
        Extremely large weight cuts and roids are more common in MMA than boxing. I think that would have more to do with the brain injury risk than the actual danger of MMA as a sport compared to boxing.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by phallus View Post
          boxing has more padding in the gloves but the fights are longer - more punches to the head. old boxers still have less brain damage from concussions than pro football players, even NHL hockey players get a lot of concussions. MMA hasn't been around long enough to compare the old brains of dead fighters with football players who died from CTE, we'll have to wait for the old school UFC fighters to die so doctors can examine their brains
          Kind of a tricky situation, but I agree with your post. Only time will tell.

          Gary Goodridge has clear signs of puglistic dementia, but someone like Chuck Liddell sounds and acts really punch drunk, but he was already that way years before ever getting knocked out. I think he was just born slow. Everything has to be put into perspective.

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          • #6
            Wait so they did this "study" by counting KO's of televised fights? The Moms Basement Foundation conduct this "study"?

            Actual real mfing scientists studies seems to indicate that getting blasted out & being done is a much less risky situation then getting blasted out & recovering enough to continue during a KD count & perhaps getting blasted out again a round or two later. I got no doubt getting KTFO isn't a good thing regardless of the sport, but then again if you want a 99% safe sport boxing & MMA turn into boring nearly unwatchable contests of skill, but no excitement.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Willy Wanker View Post
              Extremely large weight cuts and roids are more common in MMA than boxing. I think that would have more to do with the brain injury risk than the actual danger of MMA as a sport compared to boxing.
              Weight cuts surely impact the risk for damage. Idk enough about the PED angle, but clearly there are other things associated with brain injuries that would increase or decrease the risks.

              I still stand behind the studies I've seen, all else being equal, that says getting injured & being allowed to recover & than taking some more blows to the head or be injured again, like in boxing, is the riskier activity. And that less blows to the head is less of a risk than more blows & that gloves aren't helping THAT much cuz the brain is sensitive so more padding isn't really helping anything cept the other cats hands as was the whole purpose for using gloves in the first place.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Willy Wanker View Post
                Kind of a tricky situation, but I agree with your post. Only time will tell.

                Gary Goodridge has clear signs of puglistic dementia, but someone like Chuck Liddell sounds and acts really punch drunk, but he was already that way years before ever getting knocked out. I think he was just born slow. Everything has to be put into perspective.
                chuck liddell would be a good candidate for brain study, but he played high school and college football as well as wrestling before becoming an MMA fighter. the ones i'd be really worried about the fighters that play NFL football for a few years and then become MMA fighters, they would be getting the worst of the brain damage


                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                Weight cuts surely impact the risk for damage. Idk enough about the PED angle, but clearly there are other things associated with brain injuries that would increase or decrease the risks.

                I still stand behind the studies I've seen, all else being equal, that says getting injured & being allowed to recover & than taking some more blows to the head or be injured again, like in boxing, is the riskier activity. And that less blows to the head is less of a risk than more blows & that gloves aren't helping THAT much cuz the brain is sensitive so more padding isn't really helping anything cept the other cats hands as was the whole purpose for using gloves in the first place.
                i agree with you, i don't think getting 100 subconcussive hits to the head during a long fight is less bad than getting KTFO'd quickly in one round. both are going to cause brain damage

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by phallus View Post
                  chuck liddell would be a good candidate for brain study, but he played high school and college football as well as wrestling before becoming an MMA fighter. the ones i'd be really worried about the fighters that play NFL football for a few years and then become MMA fighters, they would be getting the worst of the brain damage




                  i agree with you, i don't think getting 100 subconcussive hits to the head during a long fight is less bad than getting KTFO'd quickly in one round. both are going to cause brain damage
                  Taking many more head shots is far worse than one k.o blow...and Liddell is absolutely not a good candidate his damage came in night clubs!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by phallus View Post
                    i agree with you, i don't think getting 100 subconcussive hits to the head during a long fight is less bad than getting KTFO'd quickly in one round. both are going to cause brain damage
                    Getting knocked out is a self defense mechanism.

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