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So apparently there is an actual crisis at the Southern border with record numbers...

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  • #21
    who the hell is supplying these caravans? it takes a huge amount of resources to move a group of 10,000 people yet we are expected to believe illiterate unskilled peasants are somehow managing this? Is it mexico deciding they're useless and ferrying them up to the northern border? come to mexico and get a free ride to america along with a bottle of water just to get you the hell outta mexico, like wtf is this?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
      who the hell is supplying these caravans? it takes a huge amount of resources to move a group of 10,000 people yet we are expected to believe illiterate unskilled peasants are somehow managing this? Is it mexico deciding they're useless and ferrying them up to the northern border? come to mexico and get a free ride to america along with a bottle of water just to get you the hell outta mexico, like wtf is this?
      Special interest money, likely Soros money.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Derranged View Post
          My problem is that it's gonna cost a huge amount of money and it'll barely put a dent in the issue. When there's a will there's a way. Just my two cents, though.
          Are you telling me the wall won't prevent visa overstays? I oughta put you on ignore for this un-American malarkey

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
            Cesar Chavez and Dolores Huerta fought for years for migrant farm workers to gain citizenship and come over here legally on work permits. Ironically these efforts were *****ted on by Illegals continuing to come to the USA and undercut those efforts.
            This is a part of the illegal immigration rarely spoken about by the proponents of illegal immigration, the exploitation of immigrants. Now sure if you ever watched the movie Fast Food Nation, but it gave a fictional yet very realistic account of how migrants are treated in the workplace.

            Here is an article that touches on the subject as well.

            https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...elong-injuries

            Despite all of the abuse and atrocities, I know many of them still see their conditions as an improvement over what they had in Mexico or elsewhere. But that still doesn't make it right for these corporations to employ them under such harsh conditions.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
              Surprisingly quiet was the media on this during the Government Shutdown.
              More than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without authorization in February, an 11-year high and a strong sign that stepped-up prosecutions, new controls on asylum and harsher detention policies have not reversed what remains a powerful lure for thousands of families fleeing violence and poverty.
              The shutdown ended in January. Were they supposed to report on immigration that hadn't happened yet?

              The number probably spiked because, now that the wall is going to be built, families are deciding to get in before it comes up.
              Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 03-07-2019, 05:19 PM.

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              • #27
                [QUOTQQwZ2zwz1☆☆☆@@!×+÷°QQaE=GhostofDempsey;1956541 0]They can still rely on Mexican and immigrant labor if they come here legally. When they come here illegally those Mexicans are exploited for cheap labor--so you support these big businesses exploiting them?

                California is #1 in poverty, let that sink in for a while.[/QUOTE]
                People will be exploited in a captialist society. Would you rather have socialism? But please don't tell me you support Trump and are against exploitation. That would just be stupid.

                Cali has the largest economy in the US. One of the largest in the world actually. That means we have the most of everything.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
                  The shutdown ended in January. Were they supposed to report on immigration that hadn't happened yet?

                  The number probably spiked because, now that the wall is going to be built, families are deciding to get in before it comes up.
                  So walls acutally work, huh? Crazy. Who would have thought that needing to climb over a thirty foot obstacle is more complicated than crossing through an empty field...

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Vlad_ View Post
                    So walls acutally work, huh? Crazy. Who would have thought that needing to climb over a thirty foot obstacle is more complicated than crossing through an empty field...
                    I don't think I ever said it wouldn't work. But it's a questionable investment when you consider that visa overstays have long outnumbered border crossings (until now maybe? 76k seems like a lot)

                    Originally posted by Vlad_ View Post
                    Well yeah they said it was declining when it was, and now when it jumped up they said so. They don't look unreasonable at all in this photo.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
                      Are you telling me the wall won't prevent visa overstays? I oughta put you on ignore for this un-American malarkey

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