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  • #21
    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    You literally can quote every single one of his words and use it against him, rather than the guy that claimed they accept the 15m offer, then 5 months down the line "Nope we didn't accept" the offer...

    There are no examples of Hearn telling a lie as blatent as that one by Finkel.

    "I have told Eddie Hearn that we officially accept his offer to fight Anthony Joshua in the UK, on the terms they gave us"

    5 months later: "We never accepted that offer."
    Finkle, for me, is a walking contradiction. I think it's why he doesn't always talk too much as he tends to tie himself up in knots when he does.

    Also the stuff with him going public with private with emails, telling press he's sent out offers that need to be agreed to before any talks or meetings. I just can't take what he says as serious half of the time. I take them all with a pinch of salt, but especially Finkle.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
      That’s seems true

      Every interview Lou Dibella gives the last year or so he says the same thing. Fights don’t get negotiated in public

      The Canelo / Jacobs fight is a perfect example

      When a promoter negotiates through the public it’s just them trying to control a narrative that doesn’t put them at fault and pleases their fighters fanbase

      As far as AJ fighting Wilder or Fury , Joe Gallagher summed it up perfectly on the toe 2 toe podcast this week

      Basically saying AJs the Aside and has all the power if he really wanted to fight either next he’d demand that Hearn make he fight and it’d happen.
      If Wilder doesn't want it, there's nothing Hearn can do to make it.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        You literally can quote every single one of his words and use it against him, rather than the guy that claimed they accept the 15m offer, then 5 months down the line "Nope we didn't accept" the offer...


        There are no examples of Hearn telling a lie as blatent as that one by Finkel.

        "I have told Eddie Hearn that we officially accept his offer to fight Anthony Joshua in the UK, on the terms they gave us"

        5 months later: "We never accepted that offer."[/QUOTE]

        Yeah i don't get what lies he has been "Feeding" the media. If you can quote someone then its pretty much easy to debunked that person.

        Some of the interviews that Hearn has done on video can easily be pulled out and used against him, am looking at him and thinking "Should he really be giving that sort of information to the media?"

        And then you have these lot who thinks no one else tells a like from the other side, i mean how bias can you get.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Chrismart View Post
          Finkle, for me, is a walking contradiction. I think it's why he doesn't always talk too much as he tends to tie himself up in knots when he does.

          Also the stuff with him going public with private with emails, telling press he's sent out offers that need to be agreed to before any talks or meetings. I just can't take what he says as serious half of the time. I take them all with a pinch of salt, but especially Finkle.
          Finkle is shady as hell, he isn't stupid like a lot of these Wilder fan girls, he know when NOT to speak. Like you pointed out he is a walking contradiction, not just that but a flat out liar. How can you claim you accept the offer and then months later claim you never accept that offer.

          I want the media to ask him that question, if they can first find him, if he would allow that interview to be put out and if he would actually not drop the phone or walk out of the interview.

          Hearn has been accessible to everyone of these LDBC guys and am surprise that he is handling them with ease. I would have tear my hair out trying to speak to these guys with a camera phone in my face.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
            Why didn't he address if a fight gets made it needs contracts sent ? Check

            Why didn't he state Finkel went to the public first and cried over the first offer ? Check


            Why didn't he state Finkel ran on social media again with a counter offer ? Check


            Why didn't he state fights cannot be made of the other side doesn't believe it's not the A side and demanded 50% or no fight before and after negotiations ? Check.


            This is the reason your fan base has no logic and gets the reputation it has.

            Wilder didn't even want to promote the fight refusing or declining to get in the ring after AJ defeated Klitschko and then out right refusing to attend a paid commentary job at the Parker fight,

            Wilder even went on a incoherent ramble of restraining orders accusations ? Yes this is the guy you are cheering for . Ha
            Originally posted by SeGoodland View Post
            I'm loving all of this.

            I think we are seeing Wilder fans finally realising that its not Hearn that is the bull*****ter nor that Joshua is the one ducking.

            There is far far far too much consistent evidence showing that Wilder or Finkel can't maintain a lie.
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            If Wilder doesn't want it, there's nothing Hearn can do to make it.

            Keep drinking the Kool- Aid guys , I’m sure it tastes delicious

            You’ve convinced me that if a serious offer was made from AJs camp and not just lies Hearn tells to the media that both Fury and Wilder don’t want the fight

            Even though they were able to negotiate with each other and both said it was a easy process

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View Post
              What are you talking about?! Lol

              First off the WBA ordered the fight when they felt sorry for Brook. The WBA didn’t even sanction the Brook fight.

              Then, PUBLIC delays regarding splits from Loeffler and DiBella. Wasn’t the fight postponed general scheduling? Unless there was a conflict with various HBO dates. These two never wanted to fight in the first place when asked through media.
              It's obvious that was a typo and i meant Canelo

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Chrismart View Post
                Finkle, for me, is a walking contradiction. I think it's why he doesn't always talk too much as he tends to tie himself up in knots when he does.

                Also the stuff with him going public with private with emails, telling press he's sent out offers that need to be agreed to before any talks or meetings. I just can't take what he says as serious half of the time. I take them all with a pinch of salt, but especially Finkle.
                Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                Yeah i don't get what lies he has been "Feeding" the media. If you can quote someone then its pretty much easy to debunked that person.

                Some of the interviews that Hearn has done on video can easily be pulled out and used against him, am looking at him and thinking "Should he really be giving that sort of information to the media?"

                And then you have these lot who thinks no one else tells a like from the other side, i mean how bias can you get.
                Hearn is more open than Finkel and Warren and definitely more so than Haymon, who won't even talk to reporters or fans, let alone allow them to ask him any question they like and publish his replies without come backs.

                HatmanStrikesBack talks about that in this video:

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