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Why hasn't Deontay Wilder faced the following boxers in his pro career so far?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View Post
    Exactly! How can Deontay Wilder call himself a 'world champion' without willing to fight everybody internationally?
    He flew overseas to fight Povetkin in Russia. Not his fault Povetkin cheated.

    Anthony Joshua calls himself a world champion without ever fighting internationally.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Illmatic94 View Post
      heavyweight division is a wasteland. all those guys on that list are nothing special with exception of wlad. if wilder beats ortiz all this talk should die down because not even AJ wanted to fight King Kong. and why are ppl making jokes out of Povetkin failing the test and somehow blaming Wilder for that? beating Ortiz puts all this criticism to bed. period. but but but he old doe.. FOH.

      Wilder is facing the boogeyman and right after he plans to jump in the ring and challenge the golden goose AJ in front of the world. what more can the guy do for your approval?
      Alexander Povetkin is irrelevant now because he isn't the only top class boxer that Wilder could face. An argument can be made that Kubrat Pulev is currently a better heavyweight than Povetkin. Same with Jarrell Miller.

      Also, subjective opinions such as the heavyweight division being a wasteland is totally irrelevant. Deontay Wilder has been fighting a level of opposition that is lower than the opposition he could POTENTIALLY fight. So even if it is a 'wasteland', at least fight the better of the wastelands rather than the worst of the worst?

      And Wilder will receive his due credit after he fights Luis Ortiz. But that's to be expected after 39 bouts. Nobody is entitled to shower praises on a guy for doing something he is supposed to do.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
        He's been the champion for three years. He won the title from the #2 heavyweight in the world. He's had multiple defenses against top opposition canceled through no fault of his own because his opponents were cheating.

        The opponents he's chosen for his voluntary defenses have a combined record of 157-9.

        He's making a voluntary defense against the most avoided heavyweight in the world, in the highest risk/lowest reward fight possible, for no reason other than personal pride.

        He wanted AJ, AJ didn't want him until later in the year. AJ is fighting Parker. The biggest available challenge is King Kong. What's the point on continuing to hate on a guy that's clearly seeking out the biggest challenges?
        Yet the Transnational rankings YOU go by didnt have any of his opposition ranked in a top ten when he defended against them ?

        They dont even have Ortiz ranked and you cry about how everyone should go by these rankings which anyone can look up and in every instance everyone Wilder fought was not listed top 10 AS a title defense .

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        • #64
          The sad thing is those backing Wilder and saying he is now ready, but they are the same ones accusing other boxers who have fought less fights/years in the pro game of ducking Wilder with the "They don't want to fight him mang" "What are they scared of mang"

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^, I get the povetkin excuse but after almost 40 fights and 10 years as a pro you would think his resume backs up his talking.
            He had almost no amateur experience. You keep saying 40 FIGHTS 40 FIGHTS, but 25 of those fights lasted less than 2 rounds.

            The dude was 19 years old before he ever picked up a pair of boxing gloves. Do you understand how rare it is for somebody to start so late in life and still become the heavyweight champion of the world?

            He understandably needed time to develop with his virtually nonexistent amateur background. And he kept knocking guys out so quickly that it would take 15 fights to get 10 full rounds under his belt.

            40 FIGHTS 40 FIGHTS 40 FIGHTS you guys honestly sound so clueless about the time required to develop a fighter.

            He's been champion 3 years. He's fought very credible world challengers. He beat an elite heavyweight for the title. What he's lacking is a title defense against an elite heavyweight. He'd have two if they didn't cheat. He's about to finally fight one on March 3. We'll get a lot of answers that night. Maybe Wilder will be knocked out and it'll turn out he was a fraud. It's very possible.

            But you shouldn't knock a guy he clearly wants to fight the best. You should be applauding him for taking the biggest challenge possible.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View Post
              Alexander Povetkin is irrelevant now because he isn't the only top class boxer that Wilder could face. An argument can be made that Kubrat Pulev is currently a better heavyweight than Povetkin. Same with Jarrell Miller.
              And he chose to fight King Kong, who is more highly regarded than all of them.

              Which is why your *****ing looks so silly. He's fighting the most feared and avoided heavyweight in the world. IN A VOLUNTARY DEFENSE. FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN TO PROVE HIMSELF.

              You should be kissing the guy's ass, not criticizing him. You're a hater. Plain and simple.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                Yet the Transnational rankings YOU go by didnt have any of his opposition ranked in a top ten when he defended against them ?
                Because his two big defenses were canceled due to his opponent's cheating. Go back to the TBRB rankings last year. They actually had King Kong higher than Wilder. It's not Wilder's fault that King Kong cheated.

                And Duhaupas may not have been in the TBRB top 10 when Wilder fought him, but Duhaupas went on to knock out Helenius for the silver title shortly thereafter and then spent six months in the TBRB top 10. So to act like Deontay is only defending against tomato cans is ridiculous.


                They dont even have Ortiz ranked and you cry about how everyone should go by these rankings which anyone can look up and in every instance everyone Wilder fought was not listed top 10 AS a title defense .
                TBRB had Ortiz ranked above Wilder until he failed his drug test.

                And if you want to go by TBRB, Wilder's best win is TBRB #3. Joshua's best win is TBRB #6.

                In fact, Wilder's best win is head and shoulders above the best wins of Joshua or Parker.

                So maybe this didn't work out so well for you to bring up TBRB?

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                • #68








                  fight breazile and miller doe...

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    Because his two big defenses were canceled due to his opponent's cheating. Go back to the TBRB rankings last year. They actually had King Kong higher than Wilder. It's not Wilder's fault that King Kong cheated.

                    And Duhaupas may not have been in the TBRB top 10 when Wilder fought him, but Duhaupas went on to knock out Helenius for the silver title shortly thereafter and then spent six months in the TBRB top 10. So to act like Deontay is only defending against tomato cans is ridiculous.




                    TBRB had Ortiz ranked above Wilder until he failed his drug test.

                    And if you want to go by TBRB, Wilder's best win is TBRB #3. Joshua's best win is TBRB #6.

                    In fact, Wilder's best win is head and shoulders above the best wins of Joshua or Parker.

                    So maybe this didn't work out so well for you to bring up TBRB?
                    Yea so much for me showing he hasnt defended against a top 10 as it shows not going well for ME , correct ?

                    I forgot you rate Stiverne higher than Klitchko and do a little kid numbers game bc you lack common sense of the actual sport ,what a dope !

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                      Yea so much for me showing he hasnt defended against a top 10 as it shows not going well for ME , correct ?

                      I forgot you rate Stiverne higher than Klitchko and do a little kid numbers game bc you lack common sense of the actual sport ,what a dope !
                      You brought up TBRB. Wilder's best TBRB win is #3. Joshua's best TBRB win is #6. I don't think Parker has a TBRB win at all.

                      So why are you criticizing the guy with the best win? Nothing better to do with your life?

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