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Originally posted by Zaroku View PostNo marination needed, the grill is ready! Let’s see them two fight.
They'll be marinading for the next 5 years till they are ready like Floyd/Manny. These guys are like 28 and 31 years old, what are they waiting for?
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Originally posted by Drama Show View Postyou guys are getting what you wanted...
you dont want the spence crawford fight, you all say it needs to marinate and make business sense (as if youve got your hands in the cookie jar) so this is what you will get, more one sided fights like horn and ocampos. obviously the thought of a competitive match up being made fairly quickly is such a shocking, radical idea for a lot of you.
I would have thought with the amount of guys around that division you wouldnt need to marinate a single fight for years and years, just fight the best available and then onto the next one, but this is the boxing fanbase in 2018 so obviously not.
Its safety first all the way. Its no wonder the promoters are so willing to serve up slop when you guys are all so keen to accept it, like fat kids at the canteen with your plates out asking for more servings of slop.
and what a way to build the fight anyway, two guys with zero animosity and charisma (and seemingly zero interest in talking up a fight) beating up scrubs, wow this fight is going to have huge mainstream appeal when it happens. i can feel the rivalry brewing when i hear lines like 'its got to make business sense' 'im gonna take care of my side of the street'.
... on the other hand Arum made Pac vs Horn, Bud vs Horn, Pac vs Lucas...
... none of the fights above is a "big money fight" (except, perhaps, Pac vs Horn)...
... Spence already stated that he will fight Danny/Porter winner and Thurman before he makes the Bud fight...
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Originally posted by Drama Show View Postread the damn comments in other threads, stop going down the thebigdunn route of saying im making things up.
Of course you "can't be bothered" to provide any evidence backing up your claims.
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Originally posted by Dr.Cool View PostIts not promotional bs, it is Bud being scared. Is it promotional bs, that has kept Bud from facing anyone better than Postol his entire career? Now 31 years of age, Bud can no longer cut 20 pounds and has no choice but to be in a division with A level fighters. And he chose Horn.
Come on. The only reason Bud is with Arum is because it gives him an excuse to avoid any challenge whatsoever. If Broner had fought the same competition, he too would still be undefeated. When someone as good as Bud has no one better than Horn or Postol on his resume at 31, that is not promoter bs, that is an elite boxer being scared to death to test himself.
I don't think Arum would allow Crawford-Spence now. I can see Crawford-Thurman in the distant future, but not Spence.
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Originally posted by Drama Show View Postyou dont want the spence crawford fight, you all say it needs to marinate and make business sense (as if youve got your hands in the cookie jar) so this is what you will get, more one sided fights like horn and ocampos. obviously the thought of a competitive match up being made fairly quickly is such a shocking, radical idea for a lot of you.
I would have thought with the amount of guys around that division you wouldnt need to marinate a single fight for years and years, just fight the best available and then onto the next one, but this is the boxing fanbase in 2018 so obviously not.
Its safety first all the way. Its no wonder the promoters are so willing to serve up slop when you guys are all so keen to accept it, like fat kids at the canteen with your plates out asking for more servings of slop.
and what a way to build the fight anyway, two guys with zero animosity and charisma (and seemingly zero interest in talking up a fight) beating up scrubs, wow this fight is going to have huge mainstream appeal when it happens. i can feel the rivalry brewing when i hear lines like 'its got to make business sense' 'im gonna take care of my side of the street'.
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Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View PostI'm not aware of anyone Crawford has avoided at 135 and 40. Can you name the people he should have faced instead?
I don't think Arum would allow Crawford-Spence now. I can see Crawford-Thurman in the distant future, but not Spence.
Also, Prograis and Mikey were the two best at 140, but Bud fought Indongo and then moved up to fight Horn. Bud should have fought DSG, Thurman, or Porter. But no, it was Horn.
Bud weighed more in the ring as a jww than Spence does as a ww. Someone the same size as DSG, Porter, Thurman, and Spence and his best win is against who? Postol?
Please, Bud refuses to fight anyone with a pulse. He is using Arum as an excuse. That is the only reason Bud is signed to TR. Does he not know that all the top fighters his size are with Haymon? He does, and that is why he signed with TR. So he could fight Postol and Indongo instead of Peterson and DSG. So he could fight Horn instead of Spence or Porter. Its a good excuse, but it is just that. A bs excuse so he can fight the Postol's of the world while Thurman fought DSG and Porter, while Spence fought Brook in England, while AB fought Maidana, Porter, and Mikey.
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Originally posted by Drama Show View Postyou dont want the spence crawford fight, you all say it needs to marinate and make business sense (as if youve got your hands in the cookie jar) so this is what you will get, more one sided fights like horn and ocampos. obviously the thought of a competitive match up being made fairly quickly is such a shocking, radical idea for a lot of you.
I would have thought with the amount of guys around that division you wouldnt need to marinate a single fight for years and years, just fight the best available and then onto the next one, but this is the boxing fanbase in 2018 so obviously not.
Its safety first all the way. Its no wonder the promoters are so willing to serve up slop when you guys are all so keen to accept it, like fat kids at the canteen with your plates out asking for more servings of slop.
and what a way to build the fight anyway, two guys with zero animosity and charisma (and seemingly zero interest in talking up a fight) beating up scrubs, wow this fight is going to have huge mainstream appeal when it happens. i can feel the rivalry brewing when i hear lines like 'its got to make business sense' 'im gonna take care of my side of the street'.Last edited by nacho daddy; 06-17-2018, 05:22 AM.
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There is a difference between wanting a fight to marinate and people knowing that the marinating route is the one promoters are going to make and there is nothing we can do about it. I don't think anyone on here wants to wait for the fight, but as boxing fans we should all understand that they aren't going to match these guys up now no matter how much either Spence or Crawford say they want to fight one another. Arum himself said he isn't interested in the fight until it can do 500K buys. That alone tells you it isn't happening for at least another year
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