Originally posted by j0zef
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How does the IBF sanction Spence/Ocampo but not GGG/Vanes?
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is funny cause these idiots are still talking about the wade fight on a daily basis as proof of ggg being a cherry picker (despite jacob and canelo being 2 of his last 3 opponents) but when it comes to ocampo who is just as bad its 'mandatory doe' yeah fair enough its mandatory but so was wade you bunch of absolute ****ing morons.
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Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
ocampo has been competing at welterweight and didnt have a layoff of almost 2 years
vanes never fought about 154 lbs and was almost off for 2 years
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The WBC, WBO, WBA and IBF do whatever they want and explain nothing to anybody. Jacobs will probably beat the 12 pro fight wonder and become the new IBF world middleweight champion. Very few will recognize Jacobs or the Russian as champion. Most will continue to recognize GGG as the true middleweight champion until a middleweight beats him or he retires.
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Originally posted by larryxxx.. View PostVanes had 0 fights at 160, lost his last fight, was 3-3 in his last 6 and hadnt fought in 2 years
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Originally posted by Drama Show View Postwho cares if he had 0 fights at 160, its 6 pounds diffeernce ffs, thats nothing. do you suddenly forget about everything else if someone moves up a few pounds? he was never an elite fighter but he gave charlo, lara and andrade (who he dropped) tough fights. quit making out hes some scrub cause ggg beat him, grow up man.
The best thing you can say about vanes is he dropped Andrade 5 years ago lmao
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Lets be honest we dont know who Ocampo is. He could knock Errol spark out and we would all be completely shocked. Since we don't know who he is, but do know Errol is the truth we will just assume Spence beats him from pillar to post with arrogance because we are probably right! Yes Spence will knock this Ocampo clean out!!!
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Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View PostThe IBF cares.
He also agreed to an IBF eliminator and his opponent ducked the fight, which is how he got the mandatory position.
The IBF keeps it moving. If people aren't lining up to face Spence, someone is going to get the shot. Ocampo was the best guy willing to step up. Not his fault Konstantin Ponomarev ducked the eliminator.
I’m aware that Ponomarev ducked Ocampos and if I recall a Spence fight also
But while the IBF is a stickler for following their rules it comes at a detriment to their belt , brand and their pockets
The fact they follow their rules to the T is probably one of the reasons that most established names more often then not lean towards getting ranked by the other organizations WBC /WBA because they give the names a little bit of wiggle room
And usually the IBF has the least accomplished / no name fighters in their rankings compared to the other 2 . Because while it’s great that a guy like Spence or Brook will get a eventual shot because they abide by their rules , The lack of established names fighting for the strap the Mando can be a guy just gaming the system iwho is there to get Body bagged . The Wades , Ocampos , No hope Dans , Bizier and hasn’t proven they can compete at that level
All the belts are f.ucked in way or another and none are perfect
The WBC caters to established names
The WBA hands out belts like Halloween candy
The WBO seems to be controlled by Arum /Warren or HBO affiliates
The IBF follows their rules even when it doesn’t make sense
I don’t even know why I’m writing this to you , it’s obvious I’m just a dumb opinionated fan and however many people are behind this user names knows the in outs and in betweens of all the sanctioning organizations and probably forgotten between the 3 of you more about the sport then I’ll ever know
My original post is that I just hold more weight in a inactive fighter (Vanes ) that has proven he could at least compete at the highest level against the best then a guy who’s
Entire resume is filled with guys who aren’t even in the top 150 in the entire world at their weight class
Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Postone guy competes at 154 (didnt fight for 2 years)
compared to a guy
that competes at 160 lbs (has been an active fighter & is the mandatory)
whether you like it or not derevyanchenko is the better fighter at this point in time to fight for a mw title since hes been fighting at mw and hasnt had a 2 year lay off
DOES NOT MATTER who he has fought before Tureano johnson because with that win he got himself the mando for the IBF
Devrechenko is a threat but is no name with no buzz and fights on undercards
Like I said I hold more weight for anfighter that Vanes who has proven he could compete against the best then a guy who’s never beaten a top 150 fighter
Maybe I’m wrong
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Originally posted by Drama Show View Postis funny cause these idiots are still talking about the wade fight on a daily basis as proof of ggg being a cherry picker (despite jacob and canelo being 2 of his last 3 opponents) but when it comes to ocampo who is just as bad its 'mandatory doe' yeah fair enough its mandatory but so was wade you bunch of absolute ****ing morons.
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