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Old 05-06-2019, 11:09 AM #101
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Pavlik's destruction of Jermain Taylor is better than *anything* either the Triple Duck or Canelo has managed to do @ 160. Period, full stop.
But they are way better fighters
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:11 AM #102
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You are the only.one doing revisionist history

Pavlik was a basic guy, limited, slow as fu.ck, no boxing IQ.

Easy win to Canelo

Abraham is another bum


you are the one not reading my posts, historian
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how is a 6'3" middleweight with one of the best chins ever at the weight and who threw 100 punches a round limited? because he's slow and you inherently think they are the same thing because you have no idea what you're looking at?
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:17 AM #103
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He's a top fighter but he still got a gift v GGG, twice.

His official record doesn't really tell the truth but it is what it is. Part of the game.

Hell of a fighter though, he just can't beat GGG without help from the judges. A mid 30s GGG at that.
Well said.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:44 AM #104
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Oh ok, since Hagler. Roy Jones???
Yeah

1-Hagler

2-Roy

3-B-Hop

4-Canelo
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:45 AM #105
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He's a top fighter but he still got a gift v GGG, twice.

His official record doesn't really tell the truth but it is what it is. Part of the game.

Hell of a fighter though, he just can't beat GGG without help from the judges. A mid 30s GGG at that.
According to who? An idiot like you?

Canelo won fair and square the rematch against your Idol and destroyed his ugly and mitoman face

Period

Thats the reality not your wet dreams

And he is better than GGG as a boxer and has better career that the bum killer
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:51 AM #106
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Yeah

1-Hagler

2-Roy

3-B-Hop

4-Canelo
Ok, That seems a lot more reasonable.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:52 AM #107
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Canelo is a good fighter. But what is his signature win ? What is his dominant performance against a top name? Is this all he is? A guy who gets points decisions in close fights?
To add to the above - the fact of the matter is this: Canelo's signature fight is the LOSS to Floyd Mayweather.

I'm fan of Alvarez and he's currently #1 on my P4P list - however - he's hasn't done much @ 160 to be put in the conversation alongside ATG 160lb'ers.

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Old 05-06-2019, 11:54 AM #108
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But they are way better fighters
Not @ 160...
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:56 AM #109
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Yeah

1-Hagler

2-Roy

3-B-Hop

4-Canelo
Not even CLOSE to reality.

Toney, Nunn, Leonard - just off the top of my head...
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:56 AM #110
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I can't honestly rank prime Canelo over prime Golovkin. What reasoning could you use to support that?
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