P4P Rigo vs Loma compared to P4P Mikey vs Spence?

[Thuglife Nelo]

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Where you at bruh

[R_Walken]

Not the same at all

Besides having to jump 2 weight classes

Rigo was 37, which is basically a senior citizen in boxing especially in the lower weights and He’d fought 3 rounds the previous 2 years. had never fought above 122 and has stated he could make 118 if he wanted

Loma was 29 in his prime and extremely active

Unless a miracle happend , Rigo never stood a chance


Mikey / Spence are roughly the same age

Mikey’s been more active compared to Spence has the better resume and has fought at 140 before.

Not saying Garcia wins but this isn’t a case of Spence fighting a small old inactive fighter that doesn’t stand a chance

[Thuglife Nelo]

Not the same at all

Besides having to jump 2 weight classes

Rigo was 37, which is basically a senior citizen in boxing especially in the lower weights and He’d fought 3 rounds the previous 2 years. had never fought above 122 and has stated he could make 118 if he wanted

Loma was 29 in his prime and extremely active

Unless a miracle happend , Rigo never stood a chance


Mikey / Spence are roughly the same age

Mikey’s been more active compared to Spence has the better resume and has fought at 140 before.

Not saying Garcia wins but this isn’t a case of Spence fighting a small old inactive fighter that doesn’t stand a chance

Floyd wanted Canelo at 152. That's 2lbs. Industry raged with confusion when Oscar didn't weigh 147 against Pac and called him a corpse.

So when Rigo asked for a 124 catchweight with Loma, all when Loma was making 125 for his 126 fights, do you think Rigo having to go 8lbs gives good reason why weight classes matter?

[MDPopescu]

rigo and loma are supreme boxing technicians

mikey is a well rounded boxer puncher, spence is an athletic seek and destroy fighter

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I think Lomachenko and Rigondeaux are both superior boxers than Garcia who I feel is quite superior to Spence but the styles are very different.

Lomachenko has more dimensions than Rigo who was really a master at the left hand and controlling distance and had the size advantage too if he needed it (he didn’t) whereas Mikey is the superior boxer to Spence but has a size disadvantage and himself not being a slick or mobile boxer with limited head movement will be a sitting duck for a seek and destroy mid range guy like Spence.

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Rigo had the size advantage against who?

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So when Rigo asked for a 124 catchweight with Loma, all when Loma was making 125 for his 126 fights, do you think Rigo having to go 8lbs gives good reason why weight classes matter?

... It's true -- Rigo did ask for a 124 cw when Loma was campaigning at 126...

[SHOOTALLCLOWNS]

[QUOTE=THC;19407162]Great summary. So I don't think the two fights will be similar.

I will admit that, despite the size difference, I expected Rigo to perform better than he did.[/QUOTE] I did too rigo just got outclassed from the start and could not make any adjustments so he quit mentally! shows you how insanely skilled lomachenko is!

[The Big Dunn]

Basically the same result, sizes, but different styles?

Mikey and Spence haven’t fought yet so we have no idea what the outcome will be. Why not wait until after the fight happens to compare results. You know we may end up getting a great FOTY type fight.

Sadly you, dramashow and a lot of other “fans” are behaving like this.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Mikey and Spence haven’t fought yet so we have no idea what the outcome will be. Why not wait until after the fight happens to compare results. You know we may end up getting a great FOTY type fight.

Sadly you, dramashow and a lot of other “fans” are behaving like this.

Maybe you should read the start date for when this thread was made and the posts I made in the thread. You might comprehend that I've always been supportive of this fight.

[Thuglife Nelo]

I did too rigo just got outclassed from the start and could not make any adjustments so he quit mentally! shows you how insanely skilled lomachenko is!

Conte has more knowledge with SNAC on how to prep up strength and conditioning than Diaz' Cuban school.

[R_Walken]

Floyd wanted Canelo at 152. That's 2lbs. Industry raged with confusion when Oscar didn't weigh 147 against Pac and called him a corpse.

So when Rigo asked for a 124 catchweight with Loma, all when Loma was making 125 for his 126 fights, do you think Rigo having to go 8lbs gives good reason why weight classes matter?

What ??????

Canelo offered to go to 152 and Mayweather capitized and held him to it

Big f.ucking difference offering to go 2 lbs above your weight class compared to the 2 division / 8 lbs Jump that Rigo did.

Weight Classes do matter , But comparing Loma /Rigo to Spence / Garcia isn’t a reasonable comparison

It not just the jump up in weight

Rigo was inactive for years having boxed 3 rounds in 2 years against 2 C+ level fighters , was at a age that’s considered geriatric for boxing , was giving up something like 8 years( The only other active Boxer around Rigos age /weight is Donaire who is a shell of his former self, hasn’t beaten anyone above C class in 4 years,Dont include Burnett who got injured )against a Prime Loma who was also active. Rigo would’ve been at a disadvantage if these factors was all Rigo had to deal with add in a 2 weight class jump and Rigo never stood a chance unless by some miracle to win

Mikey is prime , been more active then Spence the last 2 years and has fought nothing but current or former World Champs during this time , and this fight is only 1 division above when he fought Lipinets last year.

Mikey has a huge challenge but it’s not the same as Rigo , who had the whole deck stacked against him.

[Thuglife Nelo]

What ??????

Canelo offered to go to 152 and Mayweather capitized and held him to it

Big f.ucking difference offering to go 2 lbs above your weight class compared to the 2 division / 8 lbs Jump that Rigo did.

Weight Classes do matter , But comparing Loma /Rigo to Spence / Garcia isn’t a reasonable comparison

It not just the jump up in weight

Rigo was inactive for years having boxed 3 rounds in 2 years against 2 C+ level fighters , was at a age that’s considered geriatric for boxing , was giving up something like 8 years( The only other active Boxer around Rigos age /weight is Donaire who is a shell of his former self, hasn’t beaten anyone above C class in 4 years,Dont include Burnett who got injured )against a Prime Loma who was also active. Rigo would’ve been at a disadvantage if these factors was all Rigo had to deal with add in a 2 weight class jump and Rigo never stood a chance unless by some miracle to win

Mikey is prime , been more active then Spence the last 2 years and has fought nothing but current or former World Champs during this time , and this fight is only 1 division above when he fought Lipinets last year.

Mikey has a huge challenge but it’s not the same as Rigo , who had the whole deck stacked against him.

Canelo was WBC champ at 154 since 2011-2013. For 2 years industry was asking why Canelo vs Mayweather would happen. Mayweather was already a Champ at 2 weigths SIMULTANEOUSLY during that time. Did Mayweather call out Canelo for the WBC Green Strap from 2011-2013.

You guys get confused when reporters gets statements out of context. Canelo was asked when the Floyd fight would happen, reporters were asking if Canelo would move in weight to make the fight. Canelo said if 152 assured it, he would attempt it. He never said he could make that weight easily. He was already having issues from Cintron, Mosley and Lopez at 154.

TMT Promotions exploited those statements when they already had 2 years of trying to make that fight at 154 for the Green Strap.

Regarding Loma and Rigo. Loma wasn't a medium to big 126 fighter the way Canelo was at 154. Lomachenko ducked a P4P fighter rated higher than him when the smaller guy challenged at catchweight. Floyd ducked Canelo at the 154 limit for 2 years while simultaneously being a 2 Division champ.