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  • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
    Why did you stop quoting rule 5 halfway through the paragraph, when it says if any protocols conflicts with the contract then the contract over rides the protocol, no one here is as stupid as you jim carey
    You moron. First of all, the contract was linked to several times.


    Second of all, where in the contract do you see anything that overrides that, ya dumb bltch The contract says exactly what USADA says, which is exactly what WADA says.


    Give the **** up already. You're a moron. Every point you brought up has been ripped through and you went from a maniac writing in size 7 font in red to a little ****ing whimper.

    If you want that perma-ban bet, holla at me.

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    • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
      Definition of SUBSTANTIVE---- having a SEPARATE and INDEPENDANT EXISTANCE
      so now let's see if you used substantive in the correct manor

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      • [QUOTE=travestyny;18154310]
        Originally posted by Shape up View Post

        ONE THRU 10 ARE THE MOST SUBSTANTIVE....FOR ANTI-DOPING RULES YOU MORON!!!! LMAOOOO
        one thru 10 are the most are the most SEPARATE and independant for anti doping rules---------- does that sound correct to you nuffy

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        • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Man, I gave you more than 24 hours and still you DEFLECT!!!

          While I do NOT!
          Oh really, now. Let's expose your DEFLECTIONS, shall we?

          Question 1: How did Mayweather dilute his urine sample when it was checked by 2 separate en****** for dilution?

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          b) DCO test for dilution may not be as accurate.
          So you make up your own bullshlt here instead of answering the question. You are basing this on absolutely nothing, yea? Can you provide to us a study of the DCO's specific gravity method and why it's not so accurate? I'll be waiting for it, thanks!

          Oh, what about the lab's SPG test? No mention.

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          a) If a LAB comes back with a dilute sample, it doesn't make Floyd positive of PEDs ..... all it would say is that it was dilute/invalid! Perfect for Floyd!
          WHAT THE **** DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH FLOYD'S SAMPLES BEING UNDILUTED. DEFLECTION!

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          c) Floyd gave partial urine samples!!! Neither are valid on its own.
          WHAT THE **** DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH AN UNDILUTED URINE SAMPLE? DEFLECTION!

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          d) Both partial samples are mixed together!!!! So if 2nd one is too diluted it can invalidate the initial sample collected! Awesome for Floyd!
          BY RULE, THE SAMPLE MUST PASS THE SPECIFIC GRAVITY TEST. DEFELCTION!!!!!!

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          e) If after trying again, the DCO can just call it a day due to "exceptional circumstances" by saying Floyd went thru a lot and had an emergency type situation .... bla bla bla!!! PERFECT FOR FLOYD
          WHAT THE **** DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE SITUATION. DID THEY "CALL IT A DAY"???? DEFLECTION

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          f) Remember that YOU are believing USADA's and Floyd's every word. That is why Lance and UCI got away with it for so long. People believed that Lance was clean because the UCI said so and it was all by the books.TRY AGAIN!!!!
          OH, HERE IS SOMETHING NEW. BRING UP 2004-2010 LANCE ARMSTRONG. DEFLECTION!


          LMAOOOOOOO. HOW THE **** DID YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION? THE DCO'S SPECIFIC GRAVITY TEST MIGHT NOT BE ACCURATE?????? THE SAMPLES WERE IN FACT DILUTED??? THE DCO CAN CALL IT A DAY. WHAT THE ACTUAL **** WERE YOU SMOKING? FAIL!


          QUESTION 2: Was Lance Armstrong ever faced with the Athlete Biological Passport for the Steroidal module that Floyd Mayweather was faced with?

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Floyd can presumably maintain an ABP in the higher spectrum and it would look "normal" for Floyd even though it was actually that Floyd was cheating!!!
          LMAOOOOO. FLOYD MAYWEATHER CHEATS THE ATHLETE BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT....BY CHEATING!!!! I'VE ****ING HEARD IT ALL NOW!!!!

          WHERE IS THE ANSWER????? OH I GET YOUR GAME. WHEN I ASK YOU ABOUT FLOYD, YOU BRING UP LANCE. WHEN I ASK YOU ABOUT LANCE, YOU BRING UP FLOYD. THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL....DEFLECTION!!!!!


          QUESTION 3: [A.]Did Lance Armstrong have to get a retro TUE from an independent group of doctors that didn't have his name on the application? [B.] Did WADA exist when Lance Armstrong received the retroactive TUE?

          NO MOTHER****ING ANSWER!!!!!! YOU JUST RAMBLED ABOUT THE FRENCH MINISTRY FOR SPORT!!!!! WAS THAT THE ACTING WORLD ANTI-DOPING AGENCY, DICKWAD???? LMAOOOO!!!! DEFLECTION!!!! YOU AREN'T DOING TOO WELL, MR. I DON'T DEFLECT!


          Question 4: Was Lance Armstrong faced with the same caliber EPO test that Mayweather was faced with?

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          As for testing, in some cases it was better. Athletes were NOT micro dosing early on and therefore got caught!
          LMAOOOOOOOO. THIS DUDE NOT ONLY DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT HE SAID TESTING WAS BETTR BACK IN THE LANCE DAYS. MAN, YOU'D SAY ANYTHING NO MATTER HOW FOOLISH. DEFLECTION!!!!


          QUESTION 5: How do you think Mayweather's urine sample was altered to hide PEDs that you claim must have been in his system, yet the ABP with respect to the steroidal module was not set off?

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          There are other ways to beat these tests.
          IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T KNOW! LMAOOOOO! Or is this your wish to double down on one of the most stupid statements you've ever made.....that Floyd Mayweather beat the ABP by cheating!!!



          QUESTION 6. Why does it make sense for a paid off USADA to involve a doping control officer, a paramedic, a personal physician, three independent doctors on the therapeutic use exemptions committee, the NSAC, Manny Pacquiao, the public, a WADA lab, and WADA itself in their attempt to protect Floyd Mayweather when the best plan of action would clearly be to tell Floyd when they were coming, refuse to document the IV, or both. Clearly they could have stayed away, had the paramedic give him the IV and leave, and then take the sample and no one would know. Please explain.

          NO ****ING ANSWER. WHERE WAS THE ANSWER, ADP02? YOU BULLSHlTTED ABOUT WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE HE CHEATED THEN HALF-ASSED BROUGHT UP THE PLASTICIZER TEST, WHICH I'VE ALREADY DESTROYED!!!!

          HUGE DEFLECTION!!!!


          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Secondly, are you saying that plasticizers are extinct?
          As a matter of fact, for your purpose...yes! LMAOOOOO!

          IS THE PLASTICIZER TEST DEAD?

          Yes and no. As a primary means of identifying if an athlete has had a transfusion, or for instance used a prohibited IV, the test is as good as dead. There are too many questions about how a threshold would be determined (and its largely irrelevant as most manufactures are gradually moving towards DEHP free products). Do anti doping agencies still test for phthalates? This document would suggest so, but purely as a tool to lead to further analysis for either HBOCs (haemoglobin based oxygen carriers) or HBT (****logous blood transfusions).
          Even when it was first used, it was used to check for blood transfusions, you idiot! I already told your dumb ass not only was the test abandoned, but it was only used for blood. Tell me how man athletes USADA busted for using an IV. Can you find that for me? Nah, **** it. I'll tell you. 2!!!! And both declared it, you moron!


          QUESTION 7: [A.] Why would the DCO take a urine sample from before the IV if Mayweather was using PED's before the IV? [B.] Why would the DCO take a urine sample from AFTER the IV if the IV infused PED's into Mayweather?

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Why would the DCO take Lance's samples? That is their job!!!
          WAY TO GO, GENIUS. ISN'T IT YOUR CONTENTION THAT USADA HELPED FLOYD CHEAT. THE POINT IS, HOW DO THEY HELP HIM CHEAT BY MAKING IT MORE LIKELY THAT HE COULD FAIL. I GUESS YOU HAD NO ANSWER AND DECIDED TO DEFLECT!



          So you don't believe the DCO was in on this fix. You only believe he doesn't know how to check for specific gravity properly


          Question 8: [A.] Is Mayweather Promotions the only promotional company that has paid $100,000 for USADA testing? [B.] Do you have a problem with Arum paying $20,000 for VADA to test Pacquiao, or is that quite alright?

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Why the extra money, Columbo?
          LMAOOOOO. THE ****ING IDIOT DOESN'T KNOW WHY USADA CHARGES MORE THAN VADA. LMAOOOOOO!!!!! GREAT ANSWER! Actually...THERE WAS NO ANSWER.

          The extra money is for their trained staff, the ABP, the other fees and steps that are necessary for them to follow the WADA code, and a legal retainer. Now try answering the question without DEFLECTING!!!!! BECAUSE YOU DAMN SURE DIDN'T ANSWER!

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Floyd wanted to fight in VEGAS exclusively, have his VEGAS judges, VEGAS ref, VEGAS location, Nevada SAC, USADA exclusively!!!
          HOLY DEFLECTION!!!!!!!! WHAT THE **** DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE QUESTION????IS IT WRONG FOR ARUM TO PAY FOR VADA TESTING?????




          QUESTION 9: If, as you have stated, Mayweather takes PED's in the time before training camp and cycles off before the start of training, why would he be attempting to mask PED use the day before a test? Even Conte, whom some of you bring up and one guy posted a video of, stated, "These guys are not stupid enough to try to use something the day before the event." So by all means, please explain your contradiction.

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          By experience, Floyd expected no more testing until after the fight.

          WAIT WAIT WAIT. SO YOU BELIEVE THAT HE WAS DIRTY THOUGHOUT MULTIPLE TRAINING CAMPS--SINCE 2010--TO FOOL THE ATHLETE BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT........YET HE NEEDED AN IV THE DAY BEFORE THE FIGHT BECAUSE HE DID SOMETHING THAT NOW HE WAS MAGICALLY UNABLE TO COVER UP??????????


          AND HOW THE **** DID YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHY WOULD HE CYCLE OFF JUST TO CYCLE BACK ON SO CLOSELY TO THE FIGHT WHERE HE WILL AT LEAST BE TESTED THE NEXT DAY?????

          DEFLECTION. DON'T YOU EVER SAY THAT YOU DON'T DEFLECT, BOY. WE BOTH KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON WHO DEFLECTS HERE, AND THAT'S WHY YOU ACCUSE EVERYONE ELSE OF IT. **** OUT OF HERE. TRY ANSWERING A ****ING QUESTION. THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON WE WENT TO THE THUNDERDOME. I ASKED YOU A QUESTION OVER 20 TIMES THAT YOU WOULDN'T ANSWER. WHEN WE GOT THERE, YOU CHANGED THE TOPIC, AND YOU STILL LOST. ISN'T THAT RIGHT, ADP02.

          YOU PIECE OF SHlT DEFLECTING BlTCH!
          Last edited by travestyny; 10-23-2017, 07:01 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Shape up View Post

            one thru 10 are the most are the most SEPARATE and independant for anti doping rules---------- does that sound correct to you nuffy
            What the **** are you talking about? Are you still having trouble finding what substantive means?


            substantive
            adjective |ˈsəbstən(t)ivsəbˈstan(t)iv|
            1 having a firm basis in reality and therefore important, meaningful, or considerable: there is no substantive evidence for the efficacy of these drugs.
            2 having a separate and independent existence.
            • (of a dye) not needing a mordant.
            3 (of law) defining rights and duties as opposed to giving the rules by which such things are established.



            Why the **** would you read what USADA wrote and think that it means anything except that those articles are the most important for anti-doping, you buffoon. You need to go back to school.
            Last edited by travestyny; 10-23-2017, 06:59 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Shape up View Post

              one thru 10 are the most are the most SEPARATE and independant for anti doping rules---------- does that sound correct to you nuffy
              Anything else, ya dumb bltch, or are you tired of getting beat up on?

              1. The contract specifically says the other rules apply.
              2. The contract accounts for the part YOU said was missing.
              3. The WADA CODE proved you wrong about your medical best practices bullshlt, but you don't want to discuss that anymore, huh?
              4. The contract specifically states that WADA will be notified regarding testing. Were you wrong? Let's see you admit it, little biotch.


              The more you type, the more you expose yourself for being a complete moron. Please do us all a favor and go back to school! It's never too late!

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              • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post


                I showed you PROOF that it is NOT USADA, the DCO who told them to use the IV, it was up to Floyd and his "doctor"
                You didn't show me shyt.

                And again, stop editing things out so that it seems to support what you say when the full quote doesn't.

                When you go see a doctor or you call a paramedic to your home, you can't order them to give you ANYTHING that isn't already medically necessary.

                If that paramedic gave Floyd an unnecessary IV and something went wrong that is a jail sentence being risked and most medical professionals won't risk that.

                As to the DCO's role, the person was informed prior to the IV. What the DCO checked with higher ups and signed off on was that the IV was WADA compliant, that a TUE would likely be granted.

                Again, not one of you can answer very important questions at least 2 of which are GLARING:

                1) If USADA cheated or was otherwise non-compliant, why hasn't WADA sanctioned them?

                We have the example of WADA dismantling RUSADA (the Russian equivalent of USADA) for doing the same things you butthurt folk claim USADA did.

                So why the difference?

                2) Why did Hauser sit on the info about the IV for 4 months? Why did Pac and Arum sit on the info for 4 months too? Non-disclosure agreements prevent you from EVER commenting on something, so clearly Arum lied about that. So why didn't Pac and Arum yell "foul" as soon as they found out about the IV in May? Why didn't they consult lawyers and sue, if what Floyd did was illegal?

                I will add a few more quotes here that were previously mentioned, since it seems some here don't comprehend very well the first or tenth time.

                Mayweather did nothing illegal and actually took EXTRA STEPS to remain USADA and WADA compliant.

                As was already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr. Mayweather applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao. Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program. Although Mr. Mayweather’s application was not approved until after his fight with Mr. Pacquiao and all tests results were reported, Mr. Mayweather did disclose the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him. Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules.

                If there was any deviation from standard WADA practices in the contract, it was due to what Pac and his people insisted on.

                Furthermore, neither Mr. Mayweather nor his representatives were involved in the negotiations between USADA and Mr. Pacquiao’srepresentatives regarding the revisions to the Testing Agreement. Once USADA and Mr. Pacquiao’s representatives settled on the revised contract language, it was sent to Mr. Mayweather’s representatives for their review and comment. No changes were requested by Mr. Mayweather’s representatives and the Testing Agreement was finalized and fully executed without further revision

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                • Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                  If there was any deviation from standard WADA practices in the contract, it was due to what Pac and his people insisted on.

                  Furthermore, neither Mr. Mayweather nor his representatives were involved in the negotiations between USADA and Mr. Pacquiao’srepresentatives regarding the revisions to the Testing Agreement. Once USADA and Mr. Pacquiao’s representatives settled on the revised contract language, it was sent to Mr. Mayweather’s representatives for their review and comment. No changes were requested by Mr. Mayweather’s representatives and the Testing Agreement was finalized and fully executed without further revision


                  Uh huh. Thanks to Shape up, this was verified




                  Mayweather signed 2 days after Pacquiao and the USADA CEO signed off on it.

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                  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    Uh huh. Thanks to Shape up, this was verified




                    Mayweather signed 2 days after Pacquiao and the USADA CEO signed off on it.
                    You don't see that too often.

                    Folks so moronic that half the time they are lying and the other half they are actually helping to prove the point diametrically opposite from what they are trying to say.

                    That's a special kind of stupid...

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                    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      you moron. First of all, the contract was linked to several times.


                      Second of all, where in the contract do you see anything that overrides that, ya dumb bltch The contract says exactly what usada says, which is exactly what wada says.


                      Give the **** up already. You're a moron. every point you brought up has been ripped through and you went from a maniac writing in size 7 font in red to a little ****ing whimper.

                      if you want that perma-ban bet, holla at me.




                      dayum.


                      Shipout lookin bad out here.

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