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Old 09-15-2017, 05:44 PM #31
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what kind of cred do you illegal immigrants have?

whoever does not enter the city by the gate, but climbs in over the wall, is a thief and a robber.

John 10:2
John 10 is referring to Jesus' sheep living on both sides of borders including the Rio Grand so the thieves are the ones bearing false news like not letting His sheep pass these ancient paths, robbing their boxing matches, etc.

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John 10 is referring to Jesus' sheep living on both sides of borders including the Rio Grand so the thieves are the ones bearing false news like not letting His sheep pass these ancient paths, robbing their boxing matches, etc.
Suuuure little scab.....suuuuure.
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Suuuure little scab.....suuuuure.
I take it your Freudian slip is a compliment to fix the sick
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I imagine that HBO's professional **** starter Max Kellerman got Ward's 168 Pound ball rolling and Dawson ran with it from there.
However, Dawson found the weight loss excruciating and says he tried his best to change their fight to catchweight but neither Ward or HBO would budge for the longtime warrior.
Interesting, Dawson's trainer John Scully also seems to throw Dawson under the bus after the fight but a bit more subtle than John David Jackson's latest antics against his fighter Kovalev.

Dawson later called the whole thing a HBO set-up so I'm wondering if it's like the whole low blows John David Jackson, Tony Weeks fiasco
NAH, Not at all. I was the ONLY one in the whole camp who spoke up way in advance and said that it was INSANE and stupid, the manner in which we were making the weight. I told his manager AND his strength coach in detail what was happening and why it was wrong. They didnt listen but then AFTER the fight they wanted me to "win and lose as a team"....NONSENSE...no way was I co-signing what went down. When you focus only on your work with your strength coach (THEY ARE NOT NEEDED IN THIS GAME, Im telling you) but then after the fight everyone wants to win and lose as a team, well, NAH, thats not how it works. We werent a team, not for that fight. That was a business move gone wrong...everyone wanted the fight at 168 except for the one guy who had previous experience with losing weight to fight.
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I wish I could still find that video because I'm wondering if Kellerman put Dawson on the spot as he did with GGG against Ward etc etc. Immediately after that in the ring interview he said that he would rather not get out of his comfort zone but he would do what he had to do to secure the fight. Dawson also insists that later during training he begged to have the fight changed to catch weight
You up here with your usual jig.

How late did he request that catchweight? Can't just switch it up at the last moment and expect the A side to bow down.
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NAH, Not at all. I was the ONLY one in the whole camp who spoke up way in advance and said that it was INSANE and stupid, the manner in which we were making the weight. I told his manager AND his strength coach in detail what was happening and why it was wrong. They didnt listen but then AFTER the fight they wanted me to "win and lose as a team"....NONSENSE...no way was I co-signing what went down. When you focus only on your work with your strength coach (THEY ARE NOT NEEDED IN THIS GAME, Im telling you) but then after the fight everyone wants to win and lose as a team, well, NAH, thats not how it works. We werent a team, not for that fight. That was a business move gone wrong...everyone wanted the fight at 168 except for the one guy who had previous experience with losing weight to fight.
in some interviews that I saw after the fight , I was surprised to see you blaming Dawson's mouth and not mentioning any of the political and psychological tactics of the bigwigs involved nor how according to Dawson, he tried to change the fight to a catch-weight fairly early on once he realised how drained it was making him.

Now if Dawson was blaming you for the whole thing and as you mentioned, also finding a new coach while cutting you off from communication, I could see myself being hurt and blaming his big mouth as well, especially since you were the only one warning him.

Also, I'd be most interested to see your thoughts on the Team Ward /John David Jackson new school covert psychological warfare, and then Tony Weeks stopping the fight after supposedly not seeing multiple illegal moves .
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You up here with your usual jig.

How late did he request that catchweight? Can't just switch it up at the last moment and expect the A side to bow down.
I dont think I would of considered Ward the A side but I would expect an SOG ( whatever that means,) to best Chad at his real weight.

By the way you still haven't Define what you mean when you say you want progressive governing bodies
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I dont think I would of considered Ward the A side but I would expect an SOG ( whatever that means,) to best Chad at his real weight.

By the way you still haven't Define what you mean when you say you want progressive governing bodies
Ward had the backing of HBO, right? He had more clout.

I believe you said I was in favour of progressive governments first. Tell me why you made that comment. You said I was in favour of progressive governments first. I then ask why do you say I was not in favour of progressive governments after that.
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Ward had the backing of HBO, right? He had more clout.

I believe you said I was in favour of progressive governments first. Tell me why you made that comment. You said I was in favour of progressive governments first. I then ask why do you say I was not in favour of progressive governments after that.
Ward obviously had more clout but shouldnt have since that it was his first fight with them after Showtime's Super Six. Dawson on the other hand had been taking on all comers for HBO for years.

Likewise, I figured your progressive ideals by your fervor for US Justice system, evolutionism, totalitarian brand of socialism, and support for psychopathic's mimicry (see John David Jackson, Mayor Cruz, and Judas).
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Ward obviously had more clout but shouldnt have since that it was his first fight with them after Showtime's Super Six. Dawson on the other hand had been taking on all comers for HBO for years.

Likewise, I figured your progressive ideals by your fervor for US Justice system, evolutionism, totalitarian brand of socialism, and support for psychopathic's mimicry (see John David Jackson, Mayor Cruz, and Judas).
Refresh my memory here. HBO spotted the talent.
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