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  • Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
    At this point who cares. The evidence says he wasn't but even if he was that just shows how much of a boss he is. Came into boxing beat everyone got paid the most leaves and peasants are still mad..

    TBE
    Lmmfao lol...

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      Glad to answer all of your questions.

      Then quid pro quo. You answer mine. Deal!!!!! Here we go. Pay attention!



      Gladly.




      No problem, if Mayweather agrees then I have no problem with this.



      No problem. If he has demonstrated his expertise and Mayweather agrees, I have no problem with this.



      No problem. If they have demonstrated their expertise in judging fights and Mayweather agrees, I have no problem with this.



      Absolutely. If Mayweather agrees and that judge has displayed his expertise, I have no problem with this.



      Great!!!! Answered every one of your questions. Now answer mine.

      1. Did Pacquiao agree to the venue?
      2. Did Pacquiao agree to the ref?
      3. Did Pacquiao agree to the judges?
      4. Did NSAC approve a dying man, Ian McCall, to fight after their physical?
      5. Do you accept or decline the challenge about Salazar?
      6. Do you accept or decline the challenge about Nick Diaz?
      7. Do you accept or decline an offer of a rematch about EPO?
      8. Was the DCO a witness of the IV?

      I'll await your response
      IF Floyd wanted? Floyd never left his country and for a decade never left VEGAS!!!!

      DEFLECTOR, you would have been OK if the tables were reversed? You Floyd people didn't even want Floyd to pay Manny what he deserved to see the fight. WTF!

      You guys were basically right behind everything Floyd said! WTF!


      So if Floyd lost in Manny's home country, you wouldn't be crying that it was not fair?



      You guys and Floyd would be yelling for 1 USA judge and 1 neutral judge. Right?


      So much BS from you!!!!



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      Last edited by ADP02; 05-19-2018, 12:08 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
        It's all over, lmao. Knocked out and knocked unconscious Pac will always play 2nd fiddle to Floyd. That's your reality.
        hahhahaha. yap it's reality that floyd is only a distant 2nd as a fighter of the decade.

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        • Originally posted by KingHippo View Post
          First of all, let me just say that's I'm a Mayweather fan. He's actually the one who got me to follow boxing and transformed me from a casual to a hardcore fan. So I may be partial.

          But yes, I did have my suspicious about him and PEDs. I these doubts were trigger when I noticed changed to his jawline and muscle definition when he fought Marquez.

          However, I also do believe that he was clean for the most part of his career and that he was clear when the Pacquiao talks started. However, everybody in the industry knew what was going on with Pacquiao. He polluted the division and was a difficult problem to deal with.

          First, Mayweather was the one who tried to implement Olympic style testing. He's actually one of the people responsible for what we have today. I don't think that would be logical for someone who's dirty to bring more attention to themselves.

          But at some point, he had to realize that even with testing, Pacquiao would still be able to get away with it with the people backing him. So he and others were forced to make a decision. And they took the right one in my opinion. There was no way to catch Pacquiao and facing him clean was not only stupid, but dangerous for their safety, record, legacy and profits. So they did what they had to do. In my opinion, there is no shame in cheating against a cheater.

          What are your thoughts on the situation. Did you think Pacquiao was clean? And what is be the proper course of action if a dirty and protected fighter is sitting on top of the division?
          Where is Spoon about IV

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          • Originally posted by pasawayako View Post
            hahhahaha. yap it's reality that floyd is only a distant 2nd as a fighter of the decade.
            You can have that lmao. Are we done lol...!!!???

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              Floyd fans went from "Floyd is 100% ALL NATURAL" to "who cares"


              For many years you Floyd fans cared. Floyd scared, I mean cared that Manny did or did not.


              Now that the truth came out .... "Who cares ..."


              It matters in many ways. Besides knowing that Floyd is a CHEAT, it shows that Floyd just wanted to delay the Manny fight because he was not confident fighting that version of Manny.



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              Yea numbnuts...who cares he is retired... thats the diffrence.

              How much time and energy do you waste trying to convince people that a retired fighter was cheating..

              All the quotes and articles and pictures and posts and yet you have convinced nobody. Dont you think that's a little sad?

              So again who cares..

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              • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                STOP playing dumb ..... right, you are playing dumb? OR DEFLECTING!!!! LOL
                You're not playing. You are dumb. Talking about Floyd should have told NSAC that he couldn't piss in a cup. You're a moron.

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                As I said for years, USADA did the minimum in Floyd's case.
                Just enough to not get WADA on their case and not enough to find the TRUTH about Floyd. That is, if USADA did a proper investigation, USADA would have quickly found out that Floyd was NOT extremely dehydrated!!!!
                You already admit that they did an investigation. It clearly wouldn't have been enough for a butthurt bltch like you unless they rejected the TUE. Sorry. The doctors on the TUE Committee who reviewed the application know more about this than you, son.

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                DCO can and should have noted down what he saw on the day that Floyd took the IV. You didn't know that? LOL
                So you're saying they never talked to their own DCO? How stupid can you be. Your desperation is pathetic!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                INVESTIGATION:
                With many of these athletes who received a RETRO TUE, USADA put out a statement similar to this "“After a thorough investigation of the circumstances surrounding the potential violation, which included the retroactive TUE application process, USADA determined ......"

                USADA didn't do the same for Floyd. For Floyd they just said that Floyd applied for a RETRO TUE then USADA stamped and approved it the next day. NSAC received the RETRO TUE info the following day after that!!!
                False! Once again, they didn't approve it the same day. I've corrected you on this a million times but you're so butthurt that you keep saying it.

                Second, THEY PUT OUT AN ENTIRE RESPONSE SAYING THAT THE DCO WAS PRESENT AND THEY TOLD NSAC AND PACQUIAO ABOUT THE TUE ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT. YOU'RE WRONG. Man up and accept your idol's loss already!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                So there was NO interview nor investigation (on) by USADA with to compare with Floyd's RETRO BS application:
                - DCO
                Was a witness and gave information to USADA you clown.

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - "Paramedic"
                Was present with the DCO you idiot. Now prove they didn't speak to the Paramedic. Go!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - Floyd's doctor
                Filled out the application you moron!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - NSAC doctor
                What about him/her? Did NSAC approve of a dehydrated dying man to fight? You still haven't answered!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - Floyd
                Now you're saying USADA didn't talk to Floyd? Proof? You're a moron.

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - Ellerbe
                Was Ellerbe even there? You have some information we don't? You must have been there, huh?

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - Dr Alex Ariza
                Are you saying they had to interview him? This is what you call desperation!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - Any witnesses that were present
                Yea. The DCO you moron!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - videos of Floyd
                What???????? They had to take a video of him???????

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - Videos of Floyd drinking and drinking and drinking.....
                Was Ian McCall drinking water you clown?

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - Vital signs (getting it from NSAC)
                Did NSAC approve of a man dying from dehydration to fight? You ducked the fvvck out of this, DEFLECTOR!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                - Watching the video of Floyd saying he was "happy" and not drained just after getting an IV. Why? Because he doesn't drain his body like Ian McCall!!!
                I watched a video with Ian McCall inviting a brawl before he had to have 2 IV bags and nearly gall bladder surgery. You lose!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Once Floyd provided his RETRO TUE application to the point where they stamped and approved the TUE, USADA could have done an investigation and confirmed it to us all as they did with the athletes that I mentioned and much more. Nope. None. USADA didn't do nor state that they did an investigation. Or maybe Travestyny has that statement by USADA? Show us all DEFLECTOR!
                Yes, I do have the statement. Here you go you dumb bltch!

                https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf

                Deflect that, f@g!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Finally, it is time that you show me all your proof. There must be something? Anything? Nope. Nothing showing that Floyd was extremely dehydrated. Well, how can you? Floyd admits that the weigh-in weight is his walking weight. How can someone come up with Floyd being extremely dehydrated when scientifically, it doesn't make any sense!!!
                Sure. I can show you the proof.

                When an athlete
                has an approved TUE, as in the case of Mr. Mayweather, who received a retroactive TUE for his use of an IV containing saline and vitamins, it's not a violation of the WADA rules to use the substance or method.
                That would mean that independent doctors on the TUE committee who didn't have his name on the application approved of the TUE according to the WADA ISTUE. You lose you dumb bltch

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Lots of people confirmed that Ian McCall was definitely extremely dehydrated. You have NOTHING for Floyd ... but as I keep on telling you, how can someone who ADMITs to walking at 147 and drinking plenty after his weigh-in at that stable weight be extremely dehydrated?
                So Floyd should never be dehydrated....yet I showed you proof that he was in the past.




                YOU LOSE!!!!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Ian McCall had to rehydrate his body how much? Was it 20lbs? 25lbs?

                Floyd admits to walking at his weigh-in weight so after drinking what we saw and I'm sure we didn't see him drink (and) eat the total amount that he drank, you really trying to make people believe that Floyd was extremely dehydrated?
                Did the TUEC approve of the application? Say it, dummy! They are independent doctors that know more about this than you, aren't they? SAY IT!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Ian McCall = required an IV
                Floyd Mayweather = did NOT require an IV
                ACCORDING TO POOR ADP02 WHO WASN'T PRESENT. LMAOOOOOOO. YOU LOSE!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                FLoyd is a CHEAT and LIAR
                LMAOOOOOOO. JUST LIKE EVERYONE IS A CHEAT AND A LIAR WHO BEATS UP ON YOU AND YOUR IDOL. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS. YOU CLAIMED I CHEATED YOU IN YOUR DEBATE. WHY ADP02?

                1. Didn't you accept that the judges weren't on my side when they confronted you? You said Billeau wasn't. You never had a problem with Zaroku. You accepted what Willy Wanker said.

                That's 3 right there. So why did you go with this "Travestyny cheated" scenario? Oh, that's right. BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T ACCEPT YOUR LOSS LIKE A MAN SO YOU HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO CLAIM YOU WERE CHEATED. SOUND FAMILIAR????????

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Travestyny is DEFLECTING to definitions of a word! LOL ... Comical!
                .

                ANSWERED EVERY ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS! TRY TO DEFLECT THAT, BlTCH


                Oh...and please explain why the hospital kept Stiverne a few extra days while you're at it. NSAC just letting these fighters go in dehydrated or what?


                STIVERNE RELEASED FROM HOSPITAL AFTER BEING TREATED FOR DEHYDRATION

                https://www.******.com/376775-berman...r-dehydration/
                LAS VEGAS – Bermane Stiverne, who was listless and didn't let his hands go nearly enough Saturday when he lost his WBC heavyweight title to Deontay Wilder, remained hospitalized because of severe dehydration.

                https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...063036223.html
                Explain this, doctor dumb dumb. A heavyweight becoming severely dehydrated????

                The existence of this smashes all of your bullshlt. Good day, chump! LMAO!
                Last edited by travestyny; 05-19-2018, 07:03 PM.

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                • Look at this butthurt bltch. Answered all of your questions and you DEFLECTED. Didn't answer mine at all. I wonder why

                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  IF Floyd wanted? Floyd never left his country and for a decade never left VEGAS!!!!
                  Did pacquiao agree? Yes or no? Everyone knows Vegas is the fight capital of the world you moron.


                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  DEFLECTOR, you would have been OK if the tables were reversed? You Floyd people didn't even want Floyd to pay Manny what he deserved to see the fight. WTF!
                  I already told you, you dumb bltch. I would have been fine with it if Floyd's team was fine with it. Was Pacquiao's team fine with fighting in Las Vegas? Let me know, bro!


                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  You guys were basically right behind everything Floyd said! WTF! :
                  Says the guy that sucked up all the shlt that Pacquiao said about his shoulder

                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  So if Floyd lost in Manny's home country, you wouldn't be crying that it was not fair?
                  NOT AT ALL IF I HAD TWO EYES AND COULD SEE THAT HE CLEARLY LOST LIKE 99% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WATCHED THE FIGHT YOU BUTTHURT BUFFOON. CAN YOU NAME 10 PROFESSIONALS WHO THOUGHT PACQUIAO WON AND GOT ROBBED?????????????? DO IT!


                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  You guys and Floyd would be yelling for 1 USA judge and 1 neutral judge. Right?
                  NOT IF WE HAVE EYES AND COULD SEE WHO THE FVVCK WON YOU MORON!!!!! YOU AGREED WITH LEDERMAN'S 2ND ROUND SCORING. NOW TELL ME, DO YOU ACCEPT HIS COMPLETE SCORECARD OR NOT? DO YOU ACCEPT THE AVON JUDGE'S COMPLETE SCORECARD OR NOT? FREDDIE ROACH, PACQUIAO'S OWN TRAINER, THINKS HE LOST. MAX KELLERMAN WHO BELEIVES PAC WAS GREATER P4P BELIEVES THAT PAC LOST. MEDIA SCORECARDS HAD IT FOR MAYWEATHER. PEOPLE WHO HATE FLOYD HAD IT FOR MAYWEATHER. JIM LAMPLEY WHO GETS A WOODY WHEN PACUIAO IS MENTIONED SAID IT WAS AN EASY FIGHT TO SCORE FOR FLOYD. GIVE THE FUVVCK UP!!!!!


                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  So much BS from you!!!!



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                  YOU'VE EMBARRASSED YOURSELF ENOUGH!

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                  • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                    It's all over, lmao. Knocked out and knocked unconscious Pac will always play 2nd fiddle to Floyd. That's your reality.
                    The reality is floyd is a distant second nominee as a FIGHTER OF THE DECADE that make floyd so mad.

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                    • Originally posted by Luilun View Post
                      I commend you for being the only Mayweather fan who admits he was a steroid cheat. Yea The Jaw Line and more muscle at 40 than 25 is a red flag. I'm sure if you get a hold of his medical records he probably uses Viagra or Cialis from all the steroid abuse he has had. I'm sure Ellerbee is not complaining anymore either
                      Jaw line could have something to do with dental work, I think its EXTREMELY likely he had that sort of work done.
                      More muscle at 40, yeah won't dispute that is a bit iffy.

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