It's impossible for a Heavyweight to be #1 P4P going by the standards of P4P

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The legitimate heavyweight champion will always be the true best fighter in the world so p4p doesn't matter to a legitimate heavyweight champion. P4p is imaginary.

This too. The HW champ is always the "absolute" best fighter in the world ignoring all hypothetical and imaginary lists. He doesn't really need p4p. Weight divisions exist in the first place to protect people from him.

[kiDynamite92]

Almost. Heavyweights just aren't as skilled as the fighters from the lower weights. The concept of P4P is adding 100lbs to the smaller fighter and him keeping his speed, skills and power carrying over. The style of boxing really changes once you get bigger and bigger, the thing is you can hit harder but there's only so much the human body can take no matter how big you are.

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Being able to move faster because you're smaller does not=more skilled.

There is definitely the "Valuev phenomenon" at heavyweight are a man is so large and slow it's hard to watch him but Wlad, Povetkin, Haye would be consider skilled at any weight.

[El-blanco]

The legitimate heavyweight champion will always be the true best fighter in the world so p4p doesn't matter to a legitimate heavyweight champion. P4p is imaginary.

Thank you. P4p was created for everyone else. The hw champ is the best in the real world and should never be included in p4p.

[boliodogs]

No. Heavyweights aren't really judged by their exact weight but by how good they are for the heavyweight class. Wlad is very high on most pfp lists even though he weighs 245 pounds. If Wlad keeps winning in good style he could be pfp number one. I think Joe Louis, Marciano, Jack Dempsey, Ali and Tyson were often rated pfp number 1 in their absolute prime. Generally a smaller fighter holds the pfp number 1 spot because smaller fighters are usually better than the best heavyweights for their size.

[beez721]

its really just the best,,most dominating fighters regardless of weight. wlad is obviously top 5. just becuz hes a big heavyweight shouldnt exclude him. hell,,,,his last title challenger got mad praise just for winning a whopping 2 or 3 rounds against him. just goes to show how dominant hes been

[Elroy1]

Mike Tyson was P4P #1 in the late 1980s, wasn't he?

Yep and that's about the only natural HW (who has ALWAYS boxed professionally over 200lbs) that I would admit.

I have no issue admitting other HW's either whom have stepped up to HW from lower divisions and were decorated there also.

[Elroy1]

Being able to move faster because you're smaller does not=more skilled.

There is definitely the "Valuev phenomenon" at heavyweight are a man is so large and slow it's hard to watch him but Wlad, Povetkin, Haye would be consider skilled at any weight.

Actually that's not true, the weight divisions also indirectly influence the average height of the boxers in the divisions too.

Smaller boxers develop balance and muscle coordination far more easily than larger ones which find it increasingly challenging.

Also as far as reactions go, a case can be made that the smaller division boxers develop faster reflexes through sparring/fighting with guys etc that are faster (from being smaller).

Some of the cruisers that have stepped up to HW, although challenged in the power/strength/chin/range departments maybe which is on the whole more important, they DO more often exhibit better skills and reflexes than their larger natural HW counterparts. Think Haye and Holyfield for example.

[soul_survivor]

Winning titles in multiple weight divisions seems to be the measuring stick for climbing up the P4P ladder. Mayweather and Pacquiao are an example of this. Meanwhile a Heavyweight fighter will only win a title in 1 division because once you go over 200lbs there are no more divisions, only Heavyweight.

Look at Wladimir Klitschko. 18 title defences and he is on average around #5 P4P, the odd time I see him at #3 P4P. This is my opinion anyway.

You clearly have no idea