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Old 06-17-2017, 04:50 PM #41
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If we're keeping it 100 like a C-note, Floyd has always been a little envious of ODLH because Floyd had to work to maintain superstardom, he had to have that bad guy persona. ODLH was always a natural cash cow, he was just himself.
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:52 PM #42
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No he was not. Stop telling lies. The consensus was Jones and Delayhoya were the top two pound for pound fighters and Whitaker was not only past his prime, but the underdog as well.


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1996
Roy Jones Jr.
Oscar De La Hoya

Pernell Whitaker
Felix Trinidad
Ricardo Lopez
Junior Jones
Kostya Tszyu
Terry Norris
Evander Holyfield
Mark Johnson

1997
Oscar De La Hoya
Roy Jones Jr.
Felix Trinidad
Pernell Whitaker

Evander Holyfield
Terry Norris
Junior Jones
Ricardo Lopez
Ike Quartey
Mark Johnson

If Mosley was "on roids" why are you calling him a great fighter?


Mayweather beat Corrales, Canelo, and Jose Luis Castillo. None of them were past prime. Unlike Oscar, Mayweather actually won his fights when he stepped up LOL


The only one who brings race into the discussion is you. So don't start crying when you're called a racist if you're going to act like one.
Is Oscar ahead of Roy because of the first Griffin fight? Because otherwise I don't know how the f*ck Oscar would be above Roy.
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:55 PM #43
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That list is the same list from when they fought lol. Do you have another list that refutes this? Didn't think so.
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Ward and Kovalev are ranked Nos. 1 and 2, respectively, in THE RING pound-for-pound rankings.

The last time that happened was 20 years ago.

On April 12, 1997, Oscar De La Hoya won the WBC welterweight title when he defeated Pernell Whitaker by a 12-round unanimous decision at the Thomas and Mack Center in Las Vegas
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I don't get it. Didn't Floyd took the torch first from Oscar before Manny? Floyd's momentum was destroyed when he chose to retire back on 07.
Floyd's momentum was destroyed? He had the 2 biggest grossing fights in history after 07 and is poised to make another 9 figure payday. Maybe just maybe he made some solid decisions.
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:57 PM #45
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Ward and Kovalev are ranked Nos. 1 and 2, respectively, in THE RING pound-for-pound rankings.

The last time that happened was 20 years ago.

On April 12, 1997, Oscar De La Hoya won the WBC welterweight title when he defeated Pernell Whitaker by a 12-round unanimous decision at the Thomas and Mack Center in Las Vegas
What is the source for that link? It won't open. Also, no way in hell was either Oscar or Whitaker ranked above Jones jr at that time so I call BS on that.

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Old 06-17-2017, 04:58 PM #46
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Is Oscar ahead of Roy because of the first Griffin fight? Because otherwise I don't know how the f*ck Oscar would be above Roy.
At one time Oscar was very overrated.
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Goes both ways. Oscar pens an essay to boxing fans to not buy MayGregor yet Canelo-McGregor was the only fight that made sense.

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What is the source for that link? It won't open. Also, no way in hell was either Oscar or Whitaker ranked above Jones jr at that time so I call BS on that.
Ring....on April 11 by Tom Cray . Google it.
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Ring....on April 11 by Tom Cray . Google it.
Well he's obviousy mistaken.




Ring Magazine pound for pound ratings for 1996

Pound For Pound

Roy Jones Jr.
Oscar De La Hoya
Pernell Whitaker

Felix Trinidad
Ricardo Lopez
Junior Jones
Kostya Tszyu
Terry Norris
Evander Holyfield
Mark Johnson


Whitaker and Delahoya fought in 1997. So how in the hell would Whitaker be 1 or 2 in 1997 when he was 3 the previous year and on the decline as a fighter? To the point that Oscar was favored to beat him. It didn't happen.
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Ring Magazine pound for pound ratings for 1996

Pound For Pound

Roy Jones Jr.
Oscar De La Hoya
Pernell Whitaker

Felix Trinidad
Ricardo Lopez
Junior Jones
Kostya Tszyu
Terry Norris
Evander Holyfield
Mark Johnson


Whitaker and Delahoya fought in 1997. So how in the hell would Whitaker be 1 or 2 in 1997 when he was 3 the previous year and on the decline as a fighter? To the point that Oscar was favored to beat him. It didn't happen.

Again, you keep putting at the end of the year shit and not the rankings when they fought. Boxrec shows ratings from Ring and yet you criticize someone who wrote on a Ring article. You're in denial.....even if they were 2 & 3.....it's fair to put the winner at #1.
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