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The current pathetic version of Tyson Fury is a betting favorite vs Wilder in the US!

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  • #21
    Originally posted by New England View Post
    eddie hearn admitted that turned down more money to keep the fight in his home country and to have it next year.

    if built properly this fight is biggest in las vegas and on american PPV. joshua - klitschko did less at the gate than hopkins - calzaghe. really. and this was at a time when chad dawson was being ducked by both and clearly the best LHW on the planet. go ahead and look it up if you need to, gates in las vegas are divulged almost like bragging rights, the information is there,.

    our economy is 10X the size of yours, las vegas is the largest collection of 4 star hotels in the world, and casinos will pay you to host the fight because they bring in millions at the tables. surely you undestand what that means.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
      Sure, but there have been plenty of cases of a fighter missing two plus years of action and coming back and still being elite. Will Fury be one of those guys? Who knows, but just look at recent examples of Ward/Garcia/Floyd/Vitali. Granted, Floyd missed 21 months, but close enough. Fury is just so much of a better boxer than Wilder and awkward where if he is even close to form, he should be the favorite. Then again, maybe Wilder won't respect his power at all and just fire bombs at him all fight.


      missing action and gaining 100 lbs and getting into drugs are completely different things.

      tyson fury's voice has changed
      his face looks different
      he's from a traveling community with a relationship and culture surrounding alcohol that's ahrd for us to understand
      the guy went to f#cking war with the bottle. absolute war. you can see it in his face.


      i hope you're right, a prime fury is good for the division. sadly, you are not. no fighter takes 3 eyars off from boxing, gains 100 lbs, and comes back close to form. no one does that. only reason he'd be able to regain the championship is because this is a flat out bad division with two seriously limitd fighters being his only contenders.

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      • #23
        4/6 favorite isn't unreasonable

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        • #24
          Fury Skills won't Diminish because of a Layoff he is not going to all of a sudden Forget How To Box! In Fact, he is at a HUGE ADVANTAGE because he been able to scout and study both of those guys while he been away I'm sure. Too much is being put into his Physique and not his SKILLS! He is more skilled of a boxer than Wilder and AJ COMBINED!

          Quick Turn Around into another Camp after his fight on Saturday to start to prepare for Wilder so I think by the time Wilder fight comes around he is going to be all the way back and in Excellent Shape for that fight
          Last edited by sicko; 08-13-2018, 12:14 PM.

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          • #25
            You have to admit that Joshua’s fans are the worst in boxing. Far worse than Pacs fans. Pac went out and at least fought the best. Fury is training hard, losing weight and has a fight coming up and then might fight Wilder and all Joshua’s fans can muster up out of anger is Fury is trash lmao. You loved this man when he beat Wlad, got pissed that he left the sport because of drugs PEDs and mental illness and now hate him because he agreed to fight Wilder lmao. Thee worst!!!

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            • #26
              Originally posted by New England View Post
              missing action and gaining 100 lbs and getting into drugs are completely different things.

              tyson fury's voice has changed
              his face looks different
              he's from a traveling community with a relationship and culture surrounding alcohol that's ahrd for us to understand
              the guy went to f#cking war with the bottle. absolute war. you can see it in his face.


              i hope you're right, a prime fury is good for the division. sadly, you are not. no fighter takes 3 eyars off from boxing, gains 100 lbs, and comes back close to form. no one does that. only reason he'd be able to regain the championship is because this is a flat out bad division with two seriously limitd fighters being his only contenders.
              Sure, you make valid points. However, you can't say I am wrong or not because I didn't say he will come back to form or close to form. I said if, and listed examples of fighters who missed the same amount of time and were still elite. Doesn't mean Fury will be one of those guys. We will just have to let it play out to see how good he can still be.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Jubei View Post
                How is that even possible? Tyson Fury weighed 380lb and was totally out of the sport just a year ago, he just came back after three years from depression and obesity and put up a pathetic performance vs an absolute nobody cruiserweight in Sefer Seferi.

                According to this forum Wilder is the second coming, seems like the reality is a little bit different.
                BetFred is a UK book and public perception alters the lines. Betting is legal in the UK and a lot of pubbers like to drop a fiver or a tenner on fights, those add up. Also, Oddschecker is just an average of all the UK sites so you can't really count Oddschecker. You can't even get a money line or any line for that matter at a reputable site. Nothing on 5dimes atm so.

                According to this forum Wilder is not the second coming. Most people are giving him the edge in guts and he did have his best fight last time so people are hyped. Add to the fact that Hearn and AJ don't want the fight, people are backing Wilder.

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                • #28
                  Who are you picking to win TS?

                  The odds don't prove much to me either way but will be interesting to see specific odds on Wilder KO, Fury UD, over/under.

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                  • #29
                    Fury is a fat joke and these odds are being driven by dumb Brit fanboys.

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                    • #30
                      The bookies aren't stupid and actually pay attention to the actual Wilder fights unlike the public .

                      Wilder fights suggest hes going to struggle severly here and the reason why Fury is the favored is bc Wilder RELIES on his reach which he wont have here .

                      To make Wilder the favorite here one is basing it off a punchers chance and assuming corrupt judging will take place in 12 rnd fight .

                      Neither is logical in factoring making a favorite even if it happens .

                      The smart bettors know all Fury has to do is come in under or about 260 to assume he will out box Wilder !
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 08-13-2018, 12:38 PM.

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