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Old 05-10-2018, 09:06 PM #61
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he was a 40 year old at the top in a young mans game. Dont be so naive. All the top guys are on PEDs and its the biggest reason that guys that age are now competitive in boxing.
Never said he was or wasnt, I suspect he probably was.... all I’m sayin is these days if you have a good body, ppl jump to conclusions about peds....half these ppl( and I’m not saying you case I don’t no you) have never stepped foot inside a gym in there life... yes he was old In young mans game, but heavyweight Hasnt exactly been a strong division in the last 10yrs, few good boxers have popped up in the last cpl years and he got beatin twice but before that.......
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:21 PM #62
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These were your statements bringing Wladimir into something that Vitali had going on and he wasn't even a pro, just because he's speaking out against cheating. It's a little unfair so I disputed it. I did that because before you even said that I knew some douche would come on here saying that [email protected] Holyfield was in awesome shape in his late 40's and had rumors about steroids flying around at times too. I suppose he's a life long steroid cheat automatically as well
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Dude I feel like your trying to pigeon hole me, the question was asked, “has there every been suspicions about Wladimir using steroid”.... key word there “suspicions”, I’m not sayin he has or hasn’t, but you can’t tell me there haven’t been suspicions about Wladimir over the yrs... I just made a point that as brothers there very close , if one has come out and said he done it (whether injury or not), It wouldn’t surprise me if the other was aswell...nothing more/nothin less.... and if you read my other statements you’ll see I’m against just sayin “ oh he looks in great shape, he must be a ped user” generally ppl that have never been to a gym..... there’s a lot involved and the biggest factor is probably more to do with genetics than anything else
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:24 PM #63
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he was a 40 year old at the top in a young mans game. Dont be so naive. All the top guys are on PEDs and its the biggest reason that guys that age are now competitive in boxing.
And there’s a big difference between someone that has always been competitive and someone who is all of a sudden some sort of monster
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Old 05-11-2018, 06:48 AM #64
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So the fact that Vitali is still in good condition at like 46 and has been out of competition for almost 6 years and Hopkins being in great condition at like 50 is not enough to convince you that it's just hard work and good genetics that keep him in good shape?
Dude, don't tell me you think Hopkins was clean as well? Jesus christ. Boxing fans are the most gullible people on the planet.
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Old 05-11-2018, 11:03 AM #65
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Dude, don't tell me you think Hopkins was clean as well? Jesus christ. Boxing fans are the most gullible people on the planet.
I'm not sure if he was or wasn't but I don't remember him ever testing positive and to stay at 160 until he was so around 44 or so indicates that if he was using ped's that it wasn't HGH or muscle building steroids.

Assuming he's cheating is just as unfair as claiming Wladimir was.
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Old 05-11-2018, 11:04 AM #66
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And there’s a big difference between someone that has always been competitive and someone who is all of a sudden some sort of monster
I agree with this
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