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So why do pack animals mourn the losses of their pack members?

Dogs, Chimps, elephants, gorillas, orangutans, wolves, whales, dolphins all show signs of depression after the deaths of family members.

You act like human beings were birthed or evolved out of some special dirt lol, everything that lives on this planet all came from the same place. Almost every conscious being on planet earth shares the same base instincts. Everything that exists shares the same origin.

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KNOWING a mate died... and sitting there pondering the many levels of life are so different it's ridiculous.
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Has any animal ever buried one of its group? That would signify belief in an afterlife.
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KNOWING a mate died... and sitting there pondering the many levels of life are so different it's ridiculous.
Chimpanzees and gorillas have been shown to display signs of self awareness, language and communication skills, problem solving and tool utilization.

That means a smart gorilla who is self-aware, sees other gorillas dying, knows he's a gorilla, and feels himself getting old can probably make the connection that, just like one gorilla slows down and dies, that his slowing down mean he's going to die.

I mean I figured out what death was when I was 3 years old. I saw my uncle die in an emergency room... and I thought... where did he go... if he's not going to wake up anymore.. what happens to him?
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Chimpanzees and gorillas have been shown to display signs of self awareness, language and communication skills, problem solving and tool utilization.

That means a smart gorilla who is self-aware, sees other gorillas dying, knows he's a gorilla, and feels himself getting old can probably make the connection that, just like one gorilla slows down and dies, that his slowing down mean he's going to die.

I mean I figured out what death was when I was 3 years old. I saw my uncle die in an emergency room... and I thought... where did he go... if he's not going to wake up anymore.. what happens to him?
Not a bad reply. I can see it with a Gorilla possibly in those circumstances..

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Some higher I.Q level animals might realize that their time is coming to an end once they get old and start slowing down.

Old dogs for example, act just like old men.
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Male lions are the most thug of all animals, their lives are an endless fight.

Nearly none of them die of old age. Male lions usually die by being murdered by a younger stronger lion.
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So why do pack animals mourn the losses of their pack members?

Dogs, Chimps, elephants, gorillas, orangutans, wolves, whales, dolphins all show signs of depression after the deaths of family members.

You act like human beings were birthed or evolved out of some special dirt lol, everything that lives on this planet all came from the same place. Almost every conscious being on planet earth shares the same base instincts. Everything that exists shares the same origin.

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elephants do. they walk themselves away from everyone in their herd and die alone at some elephant cave.
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Chimpanzees and gorillas have been shown to display signs of self awareness, language and communication skills, problem solving and tool utilization.

That means a smart gorilla who is self-aware, sees other gorillas dying, knows he's a gorilla, and feels himself getting old can probably make the connection that, just like one gorilla slows down and dies, that his slowing down mean he's going to die.

I mean I figured out what death was when I was 3 years old. I saw my uncle die in an emergency room... and I thought... where did he go... if he's not going to wake up anymore.. what happens to him?
dolphins and elephants are also extremely intelligent and have complex socialization, i would put them on the same level with primates in terms of awareness of death.

lions are interesting animals also, i watched a documentary about trevor richardson, who studies wild lions. he lives with them in their social groups, and they don't try to eat him. the most interesting thing he said about the lions is that when he sleeps with them in afternoon when it gets too hot, they cuddle up with him just like my little tabby cat. these are wild animals, i think it is interesting that instead of seeing him as food, the lions make him part of their group
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have you seen a sick dog that is about to die? they know.
the question is if they have thoughts about it. not when theyre at the end of life stage.
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yes.

my dog has even written his own will.
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