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Old 07-20-2019, 03:40 PM #1
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Thumbs down Question about nuclear weapons of countries and philosophy of 2nd amendment

So, one of the arguments in support of the second amendment is that everyone ought to have the right to bear arms to resist tyranny. The idea is also if everyone is armed, that deters the violation of anyone's rights since it could be met with lethal force.

Why doesn't this principle apply to states and nuclear weapons? Why are we against allowing all countries to obtain these weapons to secure their regimes and deter invasion? Those who use them to attack others will undoubtedly be destroyed.

I think these weapons can be a way to secure peace in the world. We have seen that nuclear states have historically avoided escalating conflict with each other. Most argue that we cannot allow the enemies of the US ever to get nuclear weapons. Why not? It's a losing battle anyway. Anyone can get nukes given enough time and effort.

I contend that this would make the world more safe from war. The US would be less inclined to initiate a war. If most countries were armed with nukes, then they would be forced to resolve their issues via diplomacy and international govt rather than war.

Plus, the situation is even better than individual citizens since states tend to act more rationally because the foreign policy decisions are often decentralised.
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Old 07-20-2019, 08:59 PM #2
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Good topic. In other words, why can the U.S. have nuclear weapons but the North Korea and Iran canít?...
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Old 07-21-2019, 01:16 PM #3
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Good topic. In other words, why can the U.S. have nuclear weapons but the North Korea and Iran canít?...
Exactly mate.
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Old 07-21-2019, 01:27 PM #4
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So, one of the arguments in support of the second amendment is that everyone ought to have the right to bear arms to resist tyranny. The idea is also if everyone is armed, that deters the violation of anyone's rights since it could be met with lethal force.

Why doesn't this principle apply to states and nuclear weapons? Why are we against allowing all countries to obtain these weapons to secure their regimes and deter invasion? Those who use them to attack others will undoubtedly be destroyed.

I think these weapons can be a way to secure peace in the world. We have seen that nuclear states have historically avoided escalating conflict with each other. Most argue that we cannot allow the enemies of the US ever to get nuclear weapons. Why not? It's a losing battle anyway. Anyone can get nukes given enough time and effort.

I contend that this would make the world more safe from war. The US would be less inclined to initiate a war. If most countries were armed with nukes, then they would be forced to resolve their issues via diplomacy and international govt rather than war.

Plus, the situation is even better than individual citizens since states tend to act more rationally because the foreign policy decisions are often decentralised.
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Good topic. In other words, why can the U.S. have nuclear weapons but the North Korea and Iran canít?...
Exactly. it's a good discussion to have.
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Good topic. In other words, why can the U.S. have nuclear weapons but the North Korea and Iran can’t?...
But his questions aren't for you. They are for serious gun advocates.
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