When Has Mayweather Not Fought the Best Fighter at a Weight Division?

[Phenom]

Only at 140 kostya tszyu was when Floyd didn't fight the top fighter in the division

[lopetego]

So Cotto, Mosley, Marquez, Hatton, Alvarez, Pacquiao are all jokes in your opinion, none of them are a real challenge....I think that speaks to just how great Floyd is doesn't it? If these guys pose no challenge then he must be really good hunh?

I want to see what other welterweight can easily beat Cotto, Mosley, Marquez, Hatton, Alvarez, and Pacquiao.

They COULD have been good challenges, in different circumstances, (well, aside from midget styllistically challenged Marquez, that's a ****ing disgraceful cherrypick at any point in time) but Floyd made sure they weren't.


If Cotto had been in his prime...

If Mosely had been in his prime..

If Hatton was fighting at his best weight of 140 and without being bullied by Floyd's referee

If Canelo hadn't been weight drained and green at the elite level

If Pacquiao had been in his prime, uninjured and his opponent wasn't roiding and pulling Lance Armstrong's masking shenanigans

A lot of If's in Floyd's career. that's his career in a nutshell, a what if.
He had the skills to be truly great but lacked the heart and balls to really prove it

[boliodogs]

Mayweather fought good opposition but he was not perfect. You left out the fact that he insisted on fighting Canelo at a catchweight of 152 rather than the Jr middleweight limit of 154. That was after he bragged on fighting boxers at their best weight because he fought Cotto at 154. Canelo's best weight was 154 not 152. Also he reigned as champion at 154 for two years and never defended that title. He could have defended his 154 pound world titles against the excellent and formidable Lara or several other deserving 154 pounders but he kept the title in limbo for two years instead. He should have defended those 154 pound titles or given them up. Mayweather fought good opposition but don't make him perfect because he wasn't.

[Code Red]

Only at 140 kostya tszyu was when Floyd didn't fight the top fighter in the division

He retired before Floyd even got to 140, and losing to Ricky Hatton should make you question whether Tsyzu is as good as you think he is.

[Code Red]

They COULD have been good challenges, in different circumstances, (well, aside from midget styllistically challenged Marquez, that's a ****ing disgraceful cherrypick at any point in time) but Floyd made sure they weren't.


If Cotto had been in his prime...

If Mosely had been in his prime..

If Hatton was fighting at his best weight of 140 and without being bullied by Floyd's referee

If Canelo hadn't been weight drained and green at the elite level

If Pacquiao had been in his prime, uninjured and his opponent wasn't roiding and pulling Lance Armstrong's masking shenanigans

A lot of If's in Floyd's career. that's his career in a nutshell, a what if.
He had the skills to be truly great but lacked the heart and balls to really prove it

So Floyd knows exactly what pound, weight class, age, year and date that he can beat somebody? Let me ask you this when was the best time to fight Floyd? Cause if you claim during their "Prime" then why where they ducking Floyd during their "prime?"

If Floyd has "ifs" in his career then nobody has ever done anything in the sport of boxing because I can "what if" every fighter in the history of the sport!!

[Code Red]

Mayweather fought good opposition but he was not perfect. You left out the fact that he insisted on fighting Canelo at a catchweight of 152 rather than the Jr middleweight limit of 154. That was after he bragged on fighting boxers at their best weight because he fought Cotto at 154. Canelo's best weight was 154 not 152. Also he reigned as champion at 154 for two years and never defended that title. He could have defended his 154 pound world titles against the excellent and formidable Lara or several other deserving 154 pounders but he kept the title in limbo for two years instead. He should have defended those 154 pound titles or given them up. Mayweather fought good opposition but don't make him perfect because he wasn't.

So are all Alvarez fights at 155 invalid since the one time Floyd fought a bigger guy at a catchweight is so disheartening to you? You say Alvarez had to come in at 152...does it not matter to you that Floyd was still undersized at 150? Does it not matter that Alvarez outweighed him 15 lbs on fight night? Is that type of weight discrepancy not a disadvantage to Mayweather?

And no he should not had defended his 154 title because he has never been a junior middleweight and has never made 154. He should have done exactly what he did do, move back to 147.

[Jc8804]

He used calculated matchmaking. He weasels through the best to fight has beens and overated fighters. Starting with sharmba mitchell it was all smoke and mirrors. Floyd is top 40-45.

[Code Red]

He used calculated matchmaking. He weasels through the best to fight has beens and overated fighters. Starting with sharmba mitchell it was all smoke and mirrors. Floyd is top 40-45.

What fighter doesn't use calculated matchmaking? Isn't that exactly what a promoter and manager gets paid to do? I just want you to explain to me why can't nobody beat him

[DAVID READ]

He retired before Floyd even got to 140, and losing to Ricky Hatton should make you question whether Tsyzu is as good as you think he is.

Floyd moved to 140 fight for the first time when he defeated DeMarcus Corley on 22/5/04. Tszyu retired in 05 after losing to Hatton.

[big_james10]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke4Fne1bRMs

Around the 2:40 mark Shane is asked if he thinks Alvarez and Golovkin will fight. Shane says he doesn't get why they wont fight, maybe its a different era...the Mayweather era where you beat all the small guys first then fight bigger opponents......what the hell is Shane talking about?

When has Floyd ever camped out at a weight class waiting for small guys to move up to challenge him? If I'm not mistaken Floyd was always calling out bigger opponents, challenging them, and telling them he would move up to fight them any time. When has Floyd ever not fought the top fighter at a weight division: He fought Genaro Hernandez the best at 130, Castillo the best at 135, Gatti (who at that time was the best at 140 since Tsyzu retired and Hatton didn't want it). He fought Baldomir and Judah at 147 (The lineal and IBF Champion) He fought Oscar at 154, then went back up for Cotto, and went back up again for Alvarez!!

And even when Floyd was the bigger guy for a change he fought Marquez who was the best at 135 when that fight happened. And though he fought Hatton at 147, Hatton by no means was the smaller man!

And thats not even counting Pacquiao, Diego Corales, or Mosley, fights he just threw in for the hell of it!

I see no way any fighter or person can say that Floyd didn't fight bigger men or that he camped out one weight waiting for smaller guys to move up. Floyd has always been the guy who called other fighters out, the only time I can remember other fighters calling out Floyd was Mosley, Marquez, Hatton and Margarito, the only one he didn't fight was Margarito, the plaster using cheater!! People..fighters even, want to pretend that Floyd just snuck his way to the top....no, what he did was fight all the fights that mattered, all the big and small, and when he got his PPV shot he took the ball and ran with it!

Why people hate on him is ridiculous, the man proved himself in the ring over and over again!

You should know by now that the clowns/haters on this site will not accept facts. The haters on this site have the same mentality as Vic Darchynian and JCC Jr. Both got KO'd in a fight and swore afterwards that they were never hurt by their opponent.

The Mayweather haters on this site are the type of people who would swear they weren't hot while roasting in hell!