Comments Thread For: Hearn is Firm: Wilder Doesn't Deserve 50-50 For Joshua Fight!

[Scipio2009]

Cheapest Joshua-Miller tickets = $238
Cheapest Wilder-Breazeale tickets = $67

https://www.stubhub.com/anthony-josh...sort=price+asc
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/...S_CTR_WVB19PBC

Joshua-Miller has been on sale for over a month now yet you can still buy a row of 20 face-value tickets in about half of the lower bowl on the official MSG site, lol (and they've updated the map to now let you see individual seats; in case you were wondering, it's not that good).

Wilder-Breazeale has been on sale for all of a week and, eyeballing the ticket count, half the seats have been sold.

MSG is the bigger building, full stop; 21000 vs 17000 seats for boxing.

Let's see what the attendance ends up being

[Scipio2009]

Aj is not lineal that bogus honor still belongs to fury, he beat the lineal champ and took all his belts before aj fought klits

Fury's claim is bogus too though

[Scipio2009]

Wilder gets offered $80 million for two fights with Joshua and another $40 million between one fight with Breazeale and a TBD. Wilder's response is that he refused the offer, because Hearn didn't disclose Joshua's take! Unless Hearn stipulated that a loss in any fight kills the deal, Why is Wilder balking? He will likely never get that kind of money with Showtime. He's citing loyalty as the other reason? GTFOH!!

$5m on the Breazeale fight, 40% on the Joshua fight, 50% on a Joshua rematch, and then Wilder-TBA is likely worth more than the $100m in TV money as is.

That's what folks don't comprehend; if Wilder handles his business, the money he'd get is already what's been offered.

I don't know if you follow the NFL, but it's like Kirk Cousins; was consistently good over his rookie deal, didn't get the contract offer that he wanted so he played on the 'franchise tag', had another good year, only to get franchise tagged again (with a bump in his pay), and played well again.

Even with the risk of playing on the franchise tagged (a one-year deal with no guaranteed money), Cousins still negotiated tough; the franchise tag was going to basically give him a 30% raise for each season, so any should pay him at least that much (which he basically was finally able to get for a three-year deal all guaranteed).

If the money is basically the same if you handle business, why give up freedom?

[Scipio2009]

https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/17/eddie...fight-8354284/

You were saying?

He is also on record saying the fight can now be in the US first and Showtime can have the fight if they front more money than DAZN.

Or are you going to falsely claim that to be a lie too?

Eddie Hearn said that "he will offer" 60/40 Joshua right when everyone and their grandmother knew that making the Wilder-Fury rematch was the push.

And there's no word anywhere that the actual offer was even made; when the Fury negotiations fell apart, notice how Hearn was still actually offering fees, lol. Is this really that difficult?

The world saw Wilder-Fury 2 fall apart; if you were telling the truth, why did the DAZN talks end up being about multi-fight deals and hiding AJ, instead of Hearn/DiBella getting some base in their voice with "we've got a makeable deal for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world; which broadcaster is offering the biggest fortune"?

[Deus]

Yeah, right. DAZN has a big deal with Matchroom to do 32 shows this next year; half in the UK, half in the US. According to Hearn, 4 of those fights have to be blockbusters in order to make the DAZN deal work. Not mere PPV level fights, but blockbuster fights. Matchroom owns AJ and, by extension, so does DAZN. Keep reading.

Appears reading is an issue for you so here's a video with Hearn saying that DAZN only have first and last option on Joshua on a fight by fight basis and do not have him signed to a fight agreement.

Feel free to dispute that too... of course you're right and the guy that actually promotes Joshua is wrong.

[whatismyname]

They should stop chasing Wilder. Forget about him, he's been outed as the one that doesn't want the fight. Never give him that pay day, he'll lose soon enough and then Joshua can unify.

That's exactly whats gonna happen. Wilder is gonna get Stevenson'd/Jermell Charlo'd and he is gonna go from 40million to 2 million over night.

[Noelanthony]

that is absolute fkn rubbish, it was all over the headlines

seriously..... if you cannot remember, why comment ?

also, a simple google search would easily clarify.....

Deontay Wilder accepts terms for Anthony Joshua unification
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/new...aits-response/

Deontay Wilder accepts terms to fight Anthony Joshua in the UK
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...er-eddie-hearn

Deontay Wilder agrees to Anthony Joshua's terms
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat...showdown-in-uk

Deontay Wilder accepts terms to fight Anthony Joshua
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/deonta...ry?id=55818581

Wilder Accepts Terms To Fight Anthony Joshua In The UK
http://www.sportbible.com/boxing/new...he-uk-20180611

Wilder accepts terms to fight Anthony Joshua
https://worldinsport.com/deontay-wilder-accepts-terms/


if you cannot remember Wilder accepting their offer, then I bet there is NO chance whatsoever that you will remember Hearn refusing to include wording in the contract that guaranteed Joshua next.....

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/new...ing-continues/

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/6/2...18-boxing-news

FACT: they had Wilder on the hook for a paltry sum, figured to be around 15m..... BUT THEY PASSED!!

you guys who are running around in denial, somehow blaming the other guy..... is exactly what the g-strings spent the last 5 years doing for Golovkin

like that King Kong idiot who is denying/forgetting that stuff actually happened

I do not understand that shlt lol

Wow........All those links just to show me Wilder accepted the deal verbally on social media. I didn’t deny that. Like you said they didn’t have the location or date that’s why they didn’t sign. Ok cool even though Team Wilder signed with Fury with no location or date.However, you are right Team AJ were cowards you still are yet to tell me about offers after that initial offer. Or let me guess Team Joshua are still scared so they keep making offers? You can’t base your entire argument on what Team Joshua done in September and refuse to acknowledge gallant attempts on their part to make the fight now. Well you can because you are lol

Even by your own admission if they offer Wilder 35% then I will concede they want the fight and Deontay should accept, now you are babbling on about the past and not acknowledging what you said. Do you need your post sent back to you as a remainder?

So let’s conclude team AJ were scared to fight last year , Deontay wants 50 percent this year. Your thoughts, that’s all

[Scipio2009]

https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/17/eddie...fight-8354284/

You were saying?

He is also on record saying the fight can now be in the US first and Showtime can have the fight if they front more money than DAZN.

Or are you going to falsely claim that to be a lie too?

You're not this dumb.

[EnglishOxide]

Eddie Hearn said that "he will offer" 60/40 Joshua right when everyone and their grandmother knew that making the Wilder-Fury rematch was the push.

So? No contract was ever signed, Deyonce had that offer on the table and in public. Just 12 months ago he said he would take 40% for a Wembley fight. Now he won't even take it for a fight on his own soil? That's called ducking a fight for the undisputed heavyweight world championship.

And there's no word anywhere that the actual offer was even made; when the Fury negotiations fell apart, notice how Hearn was still actually offering fees, lol. Is this really that difficult?

Again, it's public knowledge. All Deyonce had to do was say 'Yes, I will take 40% on my own soil and my own network. At that point all Showtime have to do is guarantee Joshua more than DAZN would be willing too. There were no flat fees from Hearn when the Fury fight fell through, because by then the Miller fight was done. DAZN were the ones who offered flat fees.

The world saw Wilder-Fury 2 fall apart; if you were telling the truth, why did the DAZN talks end up being about multi-fight deals and hiding AJ, instead of Hearn/DiBella getting some base in their voice with "we've got a makeable deal for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world; which broadcaster is offering the biggest fortune"?

Because the Miller fight was done by then? The bottom line is that Deyonce got offered $40m to fight Joshua, on the condition that he fight Breazeale for $20m. Ray Finkel declared this was a $100m fight. $40m is 40% of $100m. Are you following here?

If Deyonce didn't want Breazeale included in the contract then that's all he had to say. Instead, his excuse was that he didn't know what Joshua was making. So although you have the issue with the multi fight contract, Deyonce doesn't.

[The plunger man]

What was his bluff? He turned down fighting Breazeale on DAZN. What does that have to do with Joshua?

no he turned down 2 fights with Joshua which is what he asked for and at 4 times his highest purse he also turned down breazeale 2 times his highest purse.
100 million avoidance