Did Floyd Mayweather beat 10 (future) Hall of Famers ?

[raskat]

this is awesome bro..did you guys break down if the hofer was in championship form or not. alot of people right off older champions like sweet pea when oscar beat him and when oscar beat chavez at 140 both of those guys were still active champs so oscar should get full credit for them..

No, we did not. As you see a lot of times "beating a Hall of Famer" doesn't mean that much. For example when Hopkins beat Roy Jones in the rematch, Jones was considered to be past prime as a boxer.
Same when Roy himself beat Trinidad: both were considered well past it but Tito was so much out of his weight class AND past his prime that it shouldn't count either as "beating a Hall of Famer".
Or SRR beat Henry Armstrong when Armstrong was past his prime AND way out of his natural weight class.
Or Roy Jones beat Mike McCallum when McCallum was past his prime.

[studentofthegam]

Gatti will get there because of his impact, skillwise he doesn't deserve it. Judah no where near, Hatton and Hernandez would be lucky to make it

The Hall is not for the best fighters. Its all about influence on boxing. Hatton is easily in. Hatton had maybe the biggest traveling fan base Europe has ever seen. He also wasn't a bad fighter at all.

[thatdudespits]

Floyd has had a great career and his resume is extremely underrated because he is hated..all he fights if top fighters in his divisions coming off of great wins and champions..not fighters coming off of losses at catchweights for vacant titles

floyds a great fighter and he has a great resume... but your pushing it with the margarito and cotto talk... floyd never wanted to fight margarito... and when asked about cotto after the fight he said, and i qoute... "im going to retire from boxing... im not going to let boxing retire me..."


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[thatdudespits]

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Originally Posted by MR. LARRYX

Floyd has had a great career and his resume is extremely underrated because he is hated..all he fights if top fighters in his divisions coming off of great wins and champions..not fighters coming off of losses at catchweights for vacant titles

floyds a great fighter and he has a great resume... but your pushing it with the margarito and cotto talk... floyd never wanted to fight margarito... and when asked about cotto after the fight he said, and i qoute... "im going to retire from boxing... im not going to let boxing retire me..."


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*after the hatton fight he was asked about cotto


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[tredh]

floyds a great fighter and he has a great resume... but your pushing it with the margarito and cotto talk... floyd never wanted to fight margarito... and when asked about cotto after the fight he said, and i qoute... "im going to retire from boxing... im not going to let boxing retire me..."


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I disagree with that.

[thatdudespits]

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Originally Posted by Brandish

I wonder if anyone has beaten more? pac hopkins roy de la hoya

When I go through their records, I see this:
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Manny Pacquiao beat 7 (potential future) Hall of Famers: Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Shane Mosley

Roy Jones beat 6 (potential future) Hall of Famers: Hopkins, Toney, McCallum, Virgil Hill, Tarver, Trinidad

Bernard Hopkins beat 6 (potential future) Hall of Famers : Glen Johnson (?), Trinidad, De La Hoya, Tarver, Winky Wright, Roy Jones (rematch)_______I didn't add Pavlik or maybe Jean Pascal cause their careers are still going on.

Oscar De La Hoya beat 5 (potential future) Hall of Famers: Genaro Hernandez, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr, Pernell Whitaker, Hector Camacho Sr, Arturo Gatti.-----I didn't include Mayorga, Fernando Vargas and Felix Sturm and Ike Quartey cause most people would say they are not HOF'ers.

Me and others talked about this subject in the History Section some time ago. We did some research (thanks to users BattlingNelson and Barnburner and IronDanhamza and others) and we came up with this result:
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Harry Greb beat 14 Hall of Famers
Jimmy McLarnin beat 13 Hall of Famers
Sam Langford beat 11 Hall of Famers
Ray Robinson beat 10 Hall of Famers
Henry Armstrong beat 10 Hall of Famers
Tony Canzoneri beat 9 Hall of Famers
Ezzard Charles beat 9 Hall of Famers
Joe Louis beat 8 Hall of Famers
Tommy Loughran beat 8 Hall of Famers
Muhammad Ali beat 7 Hall of Famers

Of course this list might not be 100 % correct.

if arturo gatti is a hall of famer then surely mayorga is


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[thatdudespits]

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Originally Posted by thatdudespits

floyds a great fighter and he has a great resume... but your pushing it with the margarito and cotto talk... floyd never wanted to fight margarito... and when asked about cotto after the fight he said, and i qoute... "im going to retire from boxing... im not going to let boxing retire me..."


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I disagree with that.

how do you disagree with a fact? he turned down 8 million to fight Margarito...

i still believe margarito could have beaten floyd...
styles make fights...


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[Salardo]

if arturo gatti is a hall of famer then surely mayorga is


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that is really a very hard topic. Because letting Gatti in the HOF really opens the door also for a lot of other fighters. Mayorga beat Vernon Forrest twice when Forrest was on top of the division after beating Mosley twice. So basically Mayorga was "the man" of the division for a certain time which Gatti never was. And as was mentioned earlier in the thread, if Gatti is in the HOF, then so is Zab Judah and lots of other fighters.
That being said, I don't think letting Gatti in devaluates the Hall of Fame at all.

[Larry the boss]

Mosely was past it when he faced Mayweather and was coming off a 16 month lay-off. I dont recall anyone giving him a chance in hell of winning.
In answer to the Original posters question, yes Mosely will go down as a HOF'er and Mayweather will have a win over him. Creditable win...not particularly. A win over prime Mosely would of been a whole different story but it wasn't prime Mosely..it was a version of Mosely that never won a fight again and drew with Sergio Mora.

wow really??????

[tredh]

how do you disagree with a fact? he turned down 8 million to fight Margarito...

i still believe margarito could have beaten floyd...
styles make fights...


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Cause from the story I read it wasn't just 8 mill that he turned down. It was stated that he would fight Margarito for the 8 mill if Arum got him Cotto for 10 mill and De la Hoya for 20 mill. That didn't happen and it was also reported that Arum wanted either a contract extension or options on PBF if he took that fight. So IMO its not as cut and dry as people try to make it seem when it comes down to PBF turning down that 8 mill to fight Margarito.