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  • #31
    Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
    Military budget of the USA is about 16% of the GDP. Wealth fare, Healthcare, and Housing is over 60% of our GDP. You need a strong military in order to ensure America remains ahead in trade and resources, otherwise if you think we aren't spending enough on our people, wait and see how much less money we have if Russia or China gain the stronghold and wrestle military, industrial, natural resources, and agricultural contracts away from us.
    so you can't compete in real things that make the world better, so an economy of death is the only way to keep being number one and the world needs be ashes if USA is #2. Gotcha.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
      That mantra was created by a socialist over 100 years ago. She either could not have foreseen the state of affairs today or wanted a nation full of needy freeleoders flooding our borders from all corners.
      I do agree the state of affairs has changed.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
        This is about as helpful as some of the other comments. Comparing immigration to 150+ years ago to today is comparing apples and oranges. Back then we weren't paying for healthcare, education, and just didn't have the large welfare state we do now. Immigrants back then had to pull up there boot straps and get to work or serve in the military. Its just a different ballgame now.

        In an ideal world with a minimal welfare state my policy on immigration would be, I just want to know you are here. But we don't exist in an ideal world.
        I do agree the state of affairs of immigration has changed.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by -Hyperion- View Post
          so you can't compete in real things that make the world better, so an economy of death is the only way to keep being number one and the world needs be ashes if USA is #2. Gotcha.
          No dipshit USA global dominance has led to an era of peace that is relatively rare for the world. Your alternatives are the Chinese and Russians, take a guess how bad they'd fuck you in the as$ if the US roles were reversed with them. Look no further than the 20th century to see the evidence.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
            No dipshit USA global dominance has led to an era of peace that is relatively rare for the world. Your alternatives are the Chinese and Russians, take a guess how bad they'd fuck you in the as$ if the US roles were reversed with them. Look no further than the 20th century to see the evidence.
            China and Russias ultimate goal is to take the US dollar out from being oil currency.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
              No dipshit USA global dominance has led to an era of peace that is relatively rare for the world. Your alternatives are the Chinese and Russians, take a guess how bad they'd fuck you in the as$ if the US roles were reversed with them. Look no further than the 20th century to see the evidence.
              the century where the only nukes ever used were American?(with enormous civilian casualties) OK keep reading that propaganda. Even accepting your point about USA being a lesser authoritarian, why don't you look back at human history and realize that every empire ever has rotten and collapsed trying to take the world down with them from military overexertion? How many times in history have the "good guys" become the bad guys after a while?

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              • #37
                We have two biggest enemies out there

                Rusia and China

                And both have a very tight immigration policy

                If we continue to soften our immigration policy those two would be laughing at us by the end of the day
                We have to retake our identity in America, as Americans
                We have taken so much and if we continue to do so without proper vetting our identity will be lost

                We have kids that doesnt even respect the flag, we have to deal with our issue inside b4 we can help the outside
                We have tons of homeless and fatherless kids that is being forgotten and the Liberal media continues to ignore

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                  Explain to me why we need more immigrants in this country? Whether from Mexico, Nigeria, Poland, Ukraine, Syria, Ireland or wherever. Why? The military argument is insignificant.
                  Because helping people to a better life is never a bad thing. Its what makes America great. And with lmao, Space Force being forced on us, no, the military argument is not insignificant.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
                    Military budget of the USA is about 16% of the GDP. Wealth fare, Healthcare, and Housing is over 60% of our GDP. You need a strong military in order to ensure America remains ahead in trade and resources, otherwise if you think we aren't spending enough on our people, wait and see how much less money we have if Russia or China gain the stronghold and wrestle military, industrial, natural resources, and agricultural contracts away from us.
                    We dont need a military base in every section of the world. Unless you can explain how our freedoms are being protected over there. But hey, we are now on the road to Space Force!!! Yay!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Real boxer View Post
                      Because helping people to a better life is never a bad thing. Its what makes America great. And with lmao, Space Force being forced on us, no, the military argument is not insignificant.
                      So now the U.S. is supposed to be the social workers of the world? Is immigration about helping people or exploiting people? Meanwhile, black lives still don't matter in sanctuary city Chicago and cities just like it. Can't even help our own, but we have to open our borders to the needy spilling in from Russia, Eastern Europe, China, Central America, Middle East, Africa, etc.

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