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The Soviet Union Was 90% The Reason Hitler Lost the War
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Originally posted by JimRaynor View PostHitler could've made a million more mistakes and still as$ raped Western Europe and repelled USA forces if he had not engaged in a war with the Soviet Union.
Russia suffered horrible loses (that kind of stuff happens when you send people in without weaponary).. But to say they were 90℅ of the reason Hitler lost the war is dumb
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Originally posted by Mooshashi View PostI agree, if you changed the thread title to "Invading Russia was the reason Hitler lost WWII". Nazi Germany and Soviet Union had a non-aggression pact between themselves. Had Hitler not invaded, and kept his forces in the West to face the inevitable Allied invasion, history would be very different.
No argument that, next to Poland, the Soviet Union suffered incredibly during WWII. Poland may have had a worse time because Hitler intended to exterminate the entire population. Percentage wise, Poland may be on top of your list.
I know the German infantry was WAY under dressed for a Russian winter.
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Big part sure.
90%? Nah.
Allied strategic bombing hurt german manufacturing. Soviets weren't part of that.
Also british/American tanks and most fighters given to the soviets during lend lease were pretty worthless.
Soviets had some good tanks and fighters.
But...... they got a crap load of trucks from america. A ton load.
Without those trucks..... the Soviet advance to Germany would've been slower.
Also American and British actions in the Mediterranean (north africa, italy, greece, etc.) tied down and wasted a lot of German resources that could've been at the eastern front.
Same thing if Britain made a deal with Hitler (something stalin did). All those resources of the Atlantic wall, battle of Britain, defending from strategic bombers, German navy campaign.....
All would've helped on the eastern front.
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Soviets did their part.
But still **** them.
1. They made a deal with Hitler and worked with Nazis to invade poland.
2. Some in eastern Europe was no better off under soviets than under hitler. Hell some were better off under hitler.
Yes they suffered incredibly but blame stalins dumb ass. Hell stalin killed millions of soviets and eastern euros too.
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Originally posted by creekrat77 View PostSure they did. They took half of Germany and so came the iron curtain. But it's hard to honor the Soviet Union because what they did to the occupied populations like Western Germany was disgusting.
wonder if thats one of the reasons, Germany still occupied by US. Americans just keep it peace in Germany, over them russians and muslims.Last edited by Ogecca MaMa; 08-30-2018, 04:05 AM.
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