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  • Famous debut losses?

    Joe Bugner
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Bernard Hopkins

  • #2
    Originally posted by olliesmiff View Post
    Joe Bugner
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Bernard Hopkins
    Henry Armstrong. He started out his career 1-3.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by olliesmiff View Post
      Bernard Hopkins
      Here's the story on that one:

      Hopkins started fighting four-round preliminary bouts while working as a cook. In 1988 he lost his first professional fight as the result of mismanagement and weak preparation. Hopkins, a natural middleweight, had been stuffed with fast food to move up to the light heavyweight division. Unaccustomed to the extra pounds, he was sluggish and lost to Clinton Mitchell, a middling opponent. After the loss and the poor treatment by his manager, Hopkins was so discouraged with boxing that he did not fight again for almost a year and a half. When he returned to the ring, he had a new manager, Bouie Fisher, and a new focus on conditioning.

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      • #4
        Benny Leonard and Alexis Arguello
        Last edited by NChristo; 10-25-2015, 10:35 AM.

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        • #5
          Jess Willard, Pete Rademacher.

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          • #6
            Just remembered Sonny Liston had a loss very early on. Jack Dempsey as well. Both in their first year or so.

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            • #7
              How could I forget Our 'Enry??!

              Ricardo Mayorga is another one

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              • #8
                Manuel Ortiz
                Lew Jenkins
                Eddie Perkins
                Ted Kid Lewis
                Miguel Canto
                Pipino Cuevas

                ... just a few of the many, many world champs who lost their pro debut.
                Last edited by Bundana; 10-25-2015, 04:32 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by olliesmiff View Post
                  Joe Bugner
                  Juan Manuel Marquez
                  Bernard Hopkins
                  Rafael Marquez too!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BKM-2010 View Post
                    Here's the story on that one:
                    I didn't know that background story.

                    Unfortunately this is pretty common. Boxing business is filled with hustler managers who will throw there fighter in with anyone just to get a payday.

                    Met far to many of these guys when I was in NYC. Saw one manager try to switch contracts on a fighter last minute, and had a lawyer there and all as a witness.

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