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Old 06-06-2019, 11:54 AM #31
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Our system is directly tied to how much we contribute to our education. Just like our infrastructure. In the USA we contribute minimal resources ie money to both. Hence we have poor systems.

Non citizens have zero to do with it.
Lol we spend more per student than any other nation. Our results are not because we don't spend money.
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:08 PM #32
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Lol we spend more per student than any other nation. Our results are not because we don't spend money.
He's not known for keeping up on the facts.

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And yes, you speak truth.

We spend more per student then any other nation, and yet our students dont rank anywhere near #1.

We need to ask why we are not getting good bang for our buck, and fix those reasons. (Breaking up the Teacher's Union would be a great start).

But it's more important to cheerlead for one's team and play Gotcha! games on the Internet I guess.
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:13 PM #33
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Lol we spend more per student than any other nation. Our results are not because we don't spend money.
And in case anyone needs to see it, here are a couple of source citations proving you are indeed correct:

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Those links took me all of 2 minutes to find via a Yahoo search.


I wish the mods would bring back that Lounge rule that people had to prove any assertions they made.

That one rule alone would clean up alot of the garbage in the Lounge.

Why do we put up with people spreading fake news like he was just nailed doing???
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There is more to this story than just one tweet. She has previously been reprimanded for making fun, in the classroom, of some childrens ethnicity, and multiple times as well. She is obviously unfit for teaching young children. She is certainly entitled ro her opinion and illegals in the US but this was just one incident out of several others. Straw that broke the camels back, basically.

School rankings and effectiveness are based on many factors; it is not a black and white issue as libtards and Trumpturds would tell you. Parent participation is very important; low funded schools have done very well with parents supporting the teachers and the kids, for example.
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:41 PM #35
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He's not known for keeping up on the facts.

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And yes, you speak truth.

We spend more per student then any other nation, and yet our students dont rank anywhere near #1.

We need to ask why we are not getting good bang for our buck, and fix those reasons. (Breaking up the Teacher's Union would be a great start).

But it's more important to cheerlead for one's team and play Gotcha! games on the Internet I guess.
It is rather obvious at this point, to those that pay attention anyways, that how we spend our money is the problem.

We hear about teachers don't make enough, yet teachers in the US are among the highest paid in the world, I think we are like 6th or 7th.

Basically all the talking points we have to listen to all the time are total bull****.

We need higher standards for our teachers.

We need more school choice.

We need far less administrators.

We need to front load the money on elementary school versus what we do now and spending it on the back end with high school. If a kid has problems its almost always too late if you are helping them in high school.

And the biggest thing we need to change, but I have no clue how you do it, is to have parents actually involved outside of school actively educating their kids.

And as to the impact of illegals on our education system. Low ball numbers put it at around 40 billion. Nothing to sneeze at.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:31 PM #36
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We spend roughly the same we did on education today roughly as we did 15 years ago. Every other country substantilly has increased spending. ours has increased 5 percent in the 10 year period. Its not as simple as "Oh we spend the most"
simpletans like 1sad thinks all you have to do is google for two seconds and cite the first article he sees (it was from 2013 btw lol).

Inflation is a BI T CH. but 1sad doesn't have an in depth analytical ability.

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Lol we spend more per student than any other nation. Our results are not because we don't spend money.
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He's not known for keeping up on the facts.

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And yes, you speak truth.

We spend more per student then any other nation, and yet our students dont rank anywhere near #1.

We need to ask why we are not getting good bang for our buck, and fix those reasons. (Breaking up the Teacher's Union would be a great start).

But it's more important to cheerlead for one's team and play Gotcha! games on the Internet I guess.
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And in case anyone needs to see it, here are a couple of source citations proving you are indeed correct:

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Those links took me all of 2 minutes to find via a Yahoo search.


I wish the mods would bring back that Lounge rule that people had to prove any assertions they made.

That one rule alone would clean up alot of the garbage in the Lounge.

Why do we put up with people spreading fake news like he was just nailed doing???
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:46 PM #37
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Lol we spend more per student than any other nation. Our results are not because we don't spend money.
Yes we spend a lot but that illusory. as I previously said out increase in spending has only increased 5-7 percent in the last 15years, Inflation is 4.2 percent a year. Other countries exploded their spending on education.

The US tally includes Federal Loans to cover education. That's NOT money spend its money loaned. that shouldn't be counted because its a misrepresentation.

This link is from last year, not 6 like 1sad posted..

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The U.S. spending estimate includes money spent by public sources, such as federally guaranteed student loans and direct loans from the Department of Education, and private funds. Private funds include fees and expenses paid by parents and students and private student loans, which are not federally guaranteed.

GDP is critical

The U.S. also spent less of its total wealth on education than many of its counterparts. In terms of the percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP) spent on education, at 6.2% it trailed Canada, Denmark, Iceland, the Republic of Korea and the United Kingdom. (same link)

Another interesting quote

Most of the money invested in education comes from public sources, both in the U.S. and globally. However, the U.S. invested fewer tax dollars on educating its young people than most countries in 2014, paying 70 cents of each dollar spent on education, down two cents from a decade earlier. The average country in the OECD contributed 84 cents to each studentís bill.


Thus total dollars is irrelevant. We are the richest nation on earth. So if we spend a certain amount it is not the same as another country spending a lesser amount.


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Public funding for higher education is even more disparate. In the U.S., taxpayers paid 36 cents of every dollar spent on post-secondary education, nearly 50% less than the average contributed by other OECD nations and far less than some. As a result, many students in the U.S. turn to private grants and endowments to help with the cost of college, while others enlist the help of parents and private student loans.
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LOL @ 1sad using yahoo! lmao.

fitting he is a yahoo!
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If you can't connect the dots between letting all of the most useless and illiterate central americans come here and have babies for free with the decline of the American educational system, you probably went to school in America.
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It sounds fair. Why should illegals get a free education?
Lol. Every person is taxed to death in the untied state and your saying it free. Lol. Come on man. Any even buy gas without being taxed to death.
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