Comments Thread For: Fortune To Golovkin: Don't Fight a Smaller F***ing Guy - Move Up!

[koolkc107]

I really wish folks would stop talking about what Canelo weighs on fight night.

It's ignorant and most of the time it is a dead giveaway indicating bias for Golovkin.

What a fighter weighs on the day of the fight is only one part of the equation...

...the other part is, of course, WHO he is comfortable fighting.

Would we ask Antonio Margarito, Tim Bradley, or Brandon Rios to fight George Groves?
Would we call fights between those welters and DeGale or Ramirez fair?

Why not, since all 3 of those guys and a few others are super middles on fight night?

The reason why not is that we know none of those welters have fought any true 168 pounders.

And, as admirable as it might be to see those fights, no one would realistically expect the welters to win any of them.

So why do we expect a fighter who has never fought a single true middleweight to take his first foray into the 160 lb weight class by getting in against what many think is the best one out there?

This isn't Canelo's fault.

It is the fault of the sanctioning bodies which, thru catchweights, have allowed jr middleweights to own and retain the middleweight title since 2010.

And yes, it is also Golovkin's fault for not answering the challenge and going down to 155 to get it back.

[DamonJJ]

I really wish folks would stop talking about what canelo weighs on fight night.

It's ignorant and most of the time it is a dead giveaway indicating bias for Golovkin.

What a fighter weighs on the day of the fight is only one part of the equation...

...the other part is, of course, WHO he is comfortable fighting.

Would we ask Antonio Margarito, Tim Bradley, or Brandon Rios to fight George Groves?
Would we call fights between those welters and DeGale or Ramirez fair?

Why not, since all 3 of those guys and a few others are super middles on fight night?

The reason why not is that we know none of those welters have fought any true 168 pounders.

And, as admirable as it might be to see those fights, no one would realistically expect the welters to win any of them.

So why do we expect a fighter who has never fought a single true middleweight to take his first foray into the 160 lb weight class by getting in against what many think is the best one out there?

This isn't Canelo's fault.

It is the fault of the sanctioning bodies which, thru catchweights, have allowed jr middleweights to own and retain the middleweight title since 2010.

And yes, it is also Golovkin's fault for not answering the challenge and going down to 155 to get it back.

155 is middle weight. There's no in between classes. If you're over 154 but below 161 you're a middle weight.

I love Canelo but he is as ready for this fight as he ever will be.

[koolkc107]

155 is middle weight. There's no in between classes. If you're over 154 but below 161 you're a middle weight.

I love Canelo but he is as ready for this fight as he ever will be.

Who has Canelo fought that anyone who follows the sport closely would call a true middleweight?

[jqSide]

WTF is Fortune? I'm guessing one of these floydhype fanboys in the media found an ally again and ask him leading questions.

You have to wonder why this floydhype fanboy didn't ask Postol, or didn't headline what his fair comments are about GG.

Who's next? A regular schmoe in the street?

[therealpugilist]

GGG isnt moving up until he gets the wbo belt and gets a few more cans(mandatory defenses) under his belt.

he wants all the belts....translation: we want to pad his record before he takes a risk

He'll be fighting guys we have to google until Golden Boy says **** it and puts Canelo in the mix


until that fight materializes, get your popcorn and be prepared to sit back saturday nights and watch GGG fighting cab drivers, landscapers, and taz preparers

[GGG Gloveking]

I really wish folks would stop talking about what Canelo weighs on fight night.

It's ignorant and most of the time it is a dead giveaway indicating bias for Golovkin.

What a fighter weighs on the day of the fight is only one part of the equation...

...the other part is, of course, WHO he is comfortable fighting.

Would we ask Antonio Margarito, Tim Bradley, or Brandon Rios to fight George Groves?
Would we call fights between those welters and DeGale or Ramirez fair?

Why not, since all 3 of those guys and a few others are super middles on fight night?

The reason why not is that we know none of those welters have fought any true 168 pounders.

And, as admirable as it might be to see those fights, no one would realistically expect the welters to win any of them.

So why do we expect a fighter who has never fought a single true middleweight to take his first foray into the 160 lb weight class by getting in against what many think is the best one out there?

This isn't Canelo's fault.

It is the fault of the sanctioning bodies which, thru catchweights, have allowed jr middleweights to own and retain the middleweight title since 2010.

And yes, it is also Golovkin's fault for not answering the challenge and going down to 155 to get it back.

If any of those guys held a SMW belt, and have been fighting at 161 for the last 3 years, then yes Id want them to fight Groves. If any of them signed a contract agreeing to fight Groves, said after fights on more than one occasion, and even called Groves into the ring, then yes, Id want them to fight Groves.

You say Canelo hasnt fought a true middleweight. What do we call Kirkland? Further, how is it not Canelos fault for not fighting a true MW? He knew after the Cotto fight that Golovkin was next in line. He knew in January, after the WBC graciously gave him an extension, that GGG was waiting. Did he choose to fight a MW? No. Did he pick a JMW? No. Did he pick a top tier WW? No. He picked a guy who's biggest success was at 140. He picked a guy witha suspect chin that has been KOed at 140. He picked Amir Khan. He could have picked any MW to prepare him for Golovkin, yet he picks Khan, and somehow this is supposed to excuse him from honoring his word, from honoring his signature, somehow he is supposed to be excused from exercising his DUTY as MW champion of the world.

[Eastlos]

155 is middle weight. There's no in between classes. If you're over 154 but below 161 you're a middle weight.

I love Canelo but he is as ready for this fight as he ever will be.

It's a known fact that professional athletes don't reach their prime until age 27 or 28. Canelo is 25 yrs old younger than both Joshua and Spence but you don't see anyone calling them to fight Klitschko or Mayweather. A 28 yr old Stephen Curry is much better than a 25 yr old Curry. Canelo has yet to reach his best form putting him in there with Lil G is as bad as putting Fernando Vargas against Tito Trinidad we all saw how that ended up for Vargas.

[LacedUp]

"don't fight the lineal champion in your division"

[HAY-B]

Oscar: "That's great Justin ... the money will be in your account by this afternoon"

A pile of steaming crap from a cynical PED peddling ****. Where was he when Ward was bragging about calling out a man in lower division?

In all fairness and being truthful ward calling for a ggg fight was in response to Abel big mouth Sanchez saying ggg can beat anyone from 154 to 175. So technically I don't consider that as ward calling ggg out but rather accepting the challenge Sanchez put forth.
Look GGG would not be getting all the heat he's getting from folks if it wasn't for abel's siht talking . IMO

[fvanesbeck]

Who has Canelo fought that anyone who follows the sport closely would call a true middleweight?

He's been fighting smaller guys but he is the lineal middleweight champion. Part of the reason he's looked quite good in his career up to this point is that he nearly always has a size advantage. The only two fights I can think of where he didn't (Trout & Lara), he arguably lost.

You talk about how the fighter should fight who he is comfortable fighting but he has said in the media that he wants to fight GGG so people have the right to assume that the fight should happen.

Bottom Line: If he wasn't a middleweight then he'd still be fighting at 154. He fights at a CW to maintain the size advantage and keep the hype train rolling. If he really wants to be considered a great fighter then he has to make this fight happen and at least give a good account of himself in the fight.