oh yes he did, Cotto's two losses came in later round Knockouts against big punchers Margarito and Pacquiao, cant blamed him for not being able to face Mayweather, "Money" Floyd wants no part of Cotto in '08.
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Has Miguel Cotto done enough to be voted into the IBHOF?
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Originally posted by oldgringo View Postthe vacated titles thing really isn't that big in my opinion. the man makes the fight/title. floyd mayweather beat carlos baldomir for the welterweight title.....i don't think anyone can decisively argue that baldomir is any better than carlos quintana however.
he didn't lose his two biggest fights either. he lost one of them. the shane mosley fight was a bigger legacy fight for cotto than the margarito fight was. shane is a great fighter and will make the hall of fame easily. margarito....not so much.
Yes Mosley will most likely go to the IBHOF, but IMO a prime Margarito, a top WW and Mexican fighter would've have looked very good on his career resume, moreso than Shane at the given time.
Just giving my perspective.
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Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin View PostAs it stands NO. Cotto dosent even make the top 10 greatest PR fighters list. But i still think he has a chance. I believe if his people are smart they will move him up in weight to 154. He can beat either spinks, foreman, or martinez who are the champs on that division. That will give him 4 titles in 3divisions same amount as Benitez and Trinidad. His only blemish will be the margocheater fight which now with the pictures of the pink substance cleary he cheated and his lost to Pacman which already is being questioned due to Perfomance enhancing drugs. The last part has already been discussed extensively in other threads.
#1 - Wilfredo Gomez
#2 - Wilfred Benitez
#3 - Felix Trinidad
#4 - Carlos Ortiz
#5 - Jose Torres
#6 - Edwin Rosario
#7 - Miguel Cotto
#8 - Sixto Escobar
#9 - Estaban De Jesus
#10 - Jose Torres
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All of this is subjective as i have him at #12 now. But as i said if he takes care of business at 154 he will jump a few more slots. Currently, Juan Manuel Lopez and Ivan Calderon are moving up the ranks as neither has lost a fight. I will like to see Calderon vs Donaire and JML vs either Cabellero or Chris John.
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Originally posted by 1SILVA View PostHis career I believe is all but done. I'm on the fence with this question. Would like feedback.
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Originally posted by The Monk View PostCotto has plenty of quality wins on his resume:
Cesar Bazan (former WBC lightweight champ)
Carlos Maussa (future WBA light-welterweight champ)
Lovemore N'dou (future IBF light-welterweight champ)
Randall Bailey (former WBO light-welterweight champ)
DeMarcus Corley (former WBO light-welterweight champ)
Ricardo Torres (future WBO light-welterweight champ)
Paulie Malignaggi (future IBF light-welterweight champ)
Carlos Quintana (future WBO welterweight champ)
Otkay Urkal (European light-welter and welterweight champ)
Zab Judah (former IBF/WBO light welterweight champ and Lineal WBC/WBA/IBF welterweight champ)
Shane Mosley (former IBF light weight champ, two time WBC welterweight champ, WBA/WBC light-middleweight champ and future WBA welterweight champ)
Joshua Clottey (former IBF welterweight champ)
Plus wins over solid contenders like Demetrio Ceballos, Victoriano Sosa, Kelson Pinto, Gianluca Branco, Alfonso Gomez and Michael Jennings.
One questoinable loss to former WBO welterweight champ Margarito (loaded handwraps?) and one decisive loss to the pound for pound best fighter on the planet.
In my opinion that is a Hall of fame resume. However one more big win/world title would really cement his place.
Awesome resume and he lost to one of the all time greats, his other defeat, we will never know the truth, but ALOT worse fighters have been put into the hof
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