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Carlos Ortiz vs Flash Elorde (Video)
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Originally posted by flipsideif being a champion for 7 years is being a bum then what's not? getting a draw against pac?
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Originally posted by xcaretThis aint Pac, its flash Elorde, since you know about boxing, why dont you talk about Elorde.. one of your "hero" who was a piece of **** anyway.
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Originally posted by xcaretThis aint Pac, its flash Elorde, since you know about boxing, why dont you talk about Elorde.. one of your "hero" who was a piece of **** anyway.
Calling a guy "a piece of ****" coming from "a piece of twat" like you xcarriot is a compliment.
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Originally posted by Asian SensationYo, I like your sig. Kid Chocolate Peter Quillin is good. Yo, that time you thought you were talking to Gato Figueroa, that was him.
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Both Ortiz and Elorde are in the Hall of Fame; bums don't get there. If one claims they do, then, one should be ready to get an earful from the people who vote enshrinees into the Hall.
The clip features the second Ortiz-Elorde encounter at the MSG (the first was in Manila where Elorde also lost-TKO14). Ortiz went up the ring in NY only about a year older with 54 fights behind him; Elorde has had 101.
Before winning the World Lightweight crown, Ortiz won the vacant World Jr. Welterweight diadem as he stopped Kenny Lane in the 2nd (Lane was dropped but the fight was stopped on cuts) but lost it in his first title defense against Duilio Loi by MD. Loi and Ortiz met again to settle the controversy. Loi knocked Ortiz down in the 6th before going on to settle the score with a UD.After two fights at Jr. Welter following the Loi loss, Ortiz went down to 135 lbs. and took the title from Joe Brown-- "Ole' Bones".
On the other hand, Elorde started his career at Bantamweight, tried to win the world Featherweight crown from the great Sandy Saddler (whom he had beaten in an earlier non-title tiff), failed, then moved up to rule the Jr. Lightweight class for so long that he currently holds the distinction of having been the longest ruling champ in that division's history. He was undisputed.
It was while still Jr. Lightweight champion that Elorde challenged Ortiz for the Lightweight title that the latter held. Elorde earned the right to face Ortiz as he held the Orient Lightweight diadem alongside his Jr. Lightweight title.
Between their two meetings, Elorde and Ortiz had a common foe:
Ortiz met Ismael Laguna twice. He lost to Laguna in the first meeting thus enabling the latter to reign for some 6 months before surrendering the title back to Ortiz in the return match.
Elorde knocked Laguna down twice (in the fourth and then the 9th) on the way to a UD win in their only meeting which was a non-title Lightweight bout that came after Laguna had already returned the title to Ortiz.
Just for the record: Ortiz is Puerto Rican.
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