Put a rehydratation clause in every fight and make anyone who can't make it pay a high percentage
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22% of Boxers are Gaining 10% of their Weight back from the Weigh In til Fight Night
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostNobody can order boxers to fight at a certain weight for their own good. That wouldn't work. I have follow boxing many years and I don't remember much if any problems with weight making or boxers gaining huge amounts of weight after the weigh in when the boxers weighed in about 8 hours before the fight. The trouble started when they changed the rules to weighing in about 32 hours before the fight. Then boxers started weighing in all weak, hungry and dry and gained back 10% or more of their body weight by fight time to try to outweigh their opponent in the ring. It's not healthy but they do it anyway. Some fans call them weight bullies but the are playing within today's rules and doing nothing wrong or illegal. What some fans don't understand is if they lose and then gain large amounts of weight they aren't bullying anybody and are actually harming themselves and increasing their chances of losing the fight.
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Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY! View PostReason this is only a issue is because I 100% believe the fanbase/peoples/team etc of the guy who lost to the bigger man starts crying about it etc etc and making it an issue. Theirs advantages and disadvantages to coming in light or coming in heavy.
Truth is right now we have the best system in place, theirs always gonna be those on the extreme end of both side of the spectrum etc etc its just the way it is, just the way life is.
And I'll always contend the perfect system is no weight cutting at all, cuz weight cutting is dangerous & damaging to the body when you do everything right. Its among the dumbest thing pro boxers are doing to compete in this sport & everyone is doing it so its all crossing itself out to some degree any f#cking way lmfao.
The safest you can make things in the ring is to have guys be IN THE RING at the same weight & with a hydrated brain. This has NEVER been how boxing does thing for some reason that makes zero sense to me.
And the thing is even if you did that people are gonna get severely hurt & die in the ring cuz this sport is dangerous, but I bet when boxing finally does get a clue with this bs & take upon these guidelines, assuming they do, the severe injures & deaths in boxing will be at a all time low.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostThis sh^t is nuts. And for sure a sport within a sport.
Apparently they are looking to find a way to stop this or lower the number of guys doing it in Cali today. CSAC's Andy Foster is a cat who's down for boxers/boxing like few other commissioners in the US that I'm aware of.
Anyone got any ideas or proposals that keep fighters as safe or safer, don't make things more dangerous & is reasonable without canceling fights on a days notice? LOL.
Not a easy task for them, but respect on them trying to figure it out.
Personally I still contend the healthiest, easiest way to get rid of all this bs is to kill the weight cutting/unnatural weight thing completely. I say when you get a boxing license you are determined to be a whateverweight fighter (or more to the point given a range of "healthy natural walking around weight" you can fight at) based on your natural body type, the healthiness of said body type (I'm pro-fat f#cks/obese boxers not being given a license to box at all as it makes the sport look like a joke & I don't believe most obese people to be fit to compete in a legitimate pro sport) & the use of various technology's we have like body fat percentages + gravity tests to determine hydration. Probably other things you could add onto those things, but I've not been following the upgrades made in the last 6+ months.
From there you just insure fighters stay within those "healthy weight" guidelines & fight others within their "healthy weight". If a guy excels at a weight & wishes to attempt to excel at a higher weight he can ask for special permission to be moved to a higher "healthy weight" range that includes the division above where he's allowed to fight now. If there are other changes made to a fighters weight that are deemed acceptedable he can ask for permission to move up or down in weight.
All in all people should be fighting at their natural weight & weighing in at their natural weight I say. Cut out all this fake bs about "making weight" that a guy is never gonna weigh on fight night. Its fake bs & f#cking stupid.
Weight has never really bothered me that much the way it does others. If you can get down to the weight, and rehydrate, be super strong, more power to you I say. The rules are the same for everyone. But for sure its not ideal from a competitive and safety standpoint.
The reality is, fighters will find a way to cheat or manipulate the system, whatever you do. Its like in F1, they come come up with aerodynamic rules, but the teams find a way to bend the rules and dabble in grey areas. Its the nature of the beast, and in sport in general.
I personally would just assign a rehydration limit for each weight class, which is done 2-3 hours before the fight. That way you ensure fighters are entering the ring the same, or very close in weight.
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Originally posted by sunny31 View PostThis is a really difficult questions/task. I would say most of your suggestion are not feasible, and not realistic (no offence)
Weight has never really bothered me that much the way it does others. If you can get down to the weight, and rehydrate, be super strong, more power to you I say. The rules are the same for everyone. But for sure its not ideal from a competitive and safety standpoint.
The reality is, fighters will find a way to cheat or manipulate the system, whatever you do. Its like in F1, they come come up with aerodynamic rules, but the teams find a way to bend the rules and dabble in grey areas. Its the nature of the beast, and in sport in general.
I personally would just assign a rehydration limit for each weight class, which is done 2-3 hours before the fight. That way you ensure fighters are entering the ring the same, or very close in weight.
The simplest thing is for everyone to fight at their walking around weight & just staying away from a buffet or a bikini season weight loss situation in the days leading up to the fight so there aren't over weight or there urine gravity test doesn't go south if they dropped too much weight & f#ck up the fight. But even then if there was no weight cutting it would be easier to get a sub to so if a guy is ******ed before a fight & kills 10lbs of crab legs the night previous you can just call a random guy in the area or within a flight who's at his fighting weight at that exact moment cuz its his walking around weight.
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