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  • #61
    Originally posted by Rovi View Post
    Canelo landed the less powerful punches, less number of punches and backed off. No way he wins rounds like that when GGG comes forward, lands harder, more and makes him back off.
    See, this right here is what I call intentional myopia.

    Canelo landed the biggest shots of the fight.

    Canelo landed the cleanest shots of the fight.

    Canelo landed more powershots than Golovkin and the ones he landed were much more clear and flush than what Golovkin occasionally landed.

    Golovkins edge in total punches landed is because of his jab, which he also missed in record numbers and which also were often blocked completely or partially.

    This wasn't close in terms of big shots landed.

    Don't know what fight you were watching but it wasn't what I saw.
    Last edited by koolkc107; 09-24-2017, 07:30 AM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
      See, this right here is what I call intentional myopia.

      Canelo landed the biggest shots of the fight.

      Canelo landed the cleanest shots of the fight.

      Canelo landed more powershots than Golovkin and the ones he landed were much more clear and flush than what Golovkin occasionally landed.

      Golovkins edge in total punches landed is because of his jab, which he also missed in record numbers and which also were often blocked completely or partially.

      This wasn't close in terms of big shots landed.

      Don't know what fight you were watching but it wasn't what I saw.
      Canelo landed 3 clean power shots through the entire fight.
      And 7 jabs. The rest of the time Canelo fled.

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      • #63
        The primary criteria for judging any boxing bout FIRST and FOREMOST is who landed more EFFECTIVE PUNCHES. The other 3 criteria such as defense, ring generalship and effective aggression (the clean effective puncher is usually by default, the effective aggressor) are secondary criteria which should only be used when both boxers in a bout have landed equal number of 'effective punches'. When one boxer CLEARLY lands the more effective punches in a round, then those other criteria are irrelevant and needless.

        As such, Golovkin landed the more 'effective punches', more frequently without a doubt. Canelo Alvarez may have landed a few of them here and there, but Golovkin landed more. Thus, he won the bout by the primary criteria of boxing.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by stealthradon View Post
          Canelo landed 3 clean power shots through the entire fight.
          And 7 jabs. The rest of the time Canelo fled.
          Next time, watch the fight sober.

          These are courtesy of Bigdunny1.

          ...no slomo not edits no photography tricks, time stamps so you know shots are not being recycled and rounds they occurred

          Round 1: https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-1-1-58J7W8
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-1-2-DRpq0K

          Round 2: https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-2-2-GZyRYL
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-2-3-Y6o7VM
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-2-4-pgrZ9p

          Round 3: https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-3-1-Z4q8mw
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-3-2-nZnRNW
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-3-3-pgrZXN
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-3-4-GZyRg8

          Round 4: https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-4-1-Q1ZkvL
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-4-2a-oYpZmK
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-4-3-P1XjGn
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-4-3a-wjM05J

          Round 8: https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-8-1-g51p9Z
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-8-2-JZG899
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-8-3-nZnRWY

          Round 9:
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-9-2-48E6rk
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-9-3-lOjRyV (hardest punch of fight)
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-9-4-DRpqO5

          Round 12: https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-12-1-y8QwGR
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-12-2-y8QwN6
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-12-3-X6mQKv (GGG chin)
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-12-5-qjwQ17
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-12-6-Q1ZkMG

          Round 11:
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-11-1-k592kv
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-11-2-MjOZl1
          https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-11-3-Z4q8Bg

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Ganstaz003 View Post
            The primary criteria for judging any boxing bout FIRST and FOREMOST is who landed more EFFECTIVE PUNCHES. The other 3 criteria such as defense, ring generalship and effective aggression (the clean effective puncher is usually by default, the effective aggressor) are secondary criteria which should only be used when both boxers in a bout have landed equal number of 'effective punches'. When one boxer CLEARLY lands the more effective punches in a round, then those other criteria are irrelevant and needless.

            As such, Golovkin landed the more 'effective punches', more frequently without a doubt. Canelo Alvarez may have landed a few of them here and there, but Golovkin landed more. Thus, he won the bout by the primary criteria of boxing.
            How were they more effective when most of them missed and many others were blocked or partially blocked.

            You could make the case that Canelo landed the cleaner, sharper, heavier punches practically EVERY round.

            The only question was did he land enough of them in a particular round.

            And in at least 7 of the rounds, Canelo did.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
              Next time, watch the fight sober.

              These are courtesy of Bigdunny1.

              ...no slomo not edits no photography tricks, time stamps so you know shots are not being recycled and rounds they occurred

              Round 1: https://gifs.com/gif/canelo-ggg-round-1-1-58J7W8
              ]
              What is this supposed to show? That GGG has the better defense and jab?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by stealthradon View Post
                What is this supposed to show? That GGG has the better defense and jab?
                That you were talking out of your azz when you said 3 powershots.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                  That happened in a lot of the rounds I scored for Gennady.

                  It wasn't that he was all that effective, it was just that Canelo didn't do enough.

                  But in 1-3, 6, and 10-12 Canelo did more than enough to win those rounds.
                  I had it 2-1 throug 3. It scored most of 4-9 for GGG and at least 2 of last 3 for Canelo. So it was a close fight wither way

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                    Nice try.

                    Percentage wise is a cop out.

                    Golovkin whiffed almost 500 times, jabs and powershots.

                    That was Canelo making him miss, making him tally a career low connect rate.

                    I will not argue this with you again.

                    Defense was far and away Canelo's win.
                    Wait, what? Numbers are numbers and they missed T almost the exact same rate per punch thrown. I'm not saying Canelo didn't look good on defense but let's not act like Canelo landed everything he threw. And are we really gonna go by historic averages? Fking Canelo probably landed 75% of his punches on the heavy bag Chavez Jr. and Angulo and 20% on Lara. Each fight is a different case, past fights don't mean squat

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                      Nice try.

                      Percentage wise is a cop out.

                      Golovkin whiffed almost 500 times, jabs and powershots.

                      That was Canelo making him miss, making him tally a career low connect rate.

                      I will not argue this with you again.

                      Defense was far and away Canelo's win.
                      LOL, you just spurt out a number then claim that it is a fact. Good try but that is ******ed.

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