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  • #91
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
    Media members are starting to report these numbers now. Still fake news?
    The fake news is you said it was a flop. This fight wasn't supposed to do big numbers. It wasn't promoted as that type of fight. You're just dick riding PBC fighters and none of them can sell without a name.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
      The fake news is you said it was a flop. This fight wasn't supposed to do big numbers. It wasn't promoted as that type of fight. You're just dick riding PBC fighters and none of them can sell without a name.
      Anything under 200k should not be PPV. This is the generally accepted rule in boxing. 200k is not enough to do a joint promotion

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
        Anything under 200k should not be PPV.

        Spence/Garcia did 360-400k. Canelo/Khan did 460k.
        Canelo is the cash cow of boxing. He is in a different league from everyone else. Maybe only Anthony Joshua (in the UK) can compare, but Canelo is a start everywhere.

        For 2nd tier stars GGG used to be at the top, but his fall from grace was significant. Now its guys like Wilder, Fury, Lomachenko, Spencer, Crawford, Pacquiao, etc. Danny Garcia probably a 2nd tier star also, but Thurman and Porter are 3rd tier at this point...too inactive and boring to matter at all

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
          Anything under 200k should not be PPV. This is the generally accepted rule in boxing. 200k is not enough to do a joint promotion
          What a stupid ****en answer lmao. PBC is oozing out of your PBC dick blowing body lol...

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          • #95
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
            The only fights on free TV are PBC. In the time buy era, we got some pretty good fights, but now in the paid era, they appear to be giving everyone a showcase fight before building to bigger things.

            Fans should buy whatever fights they think are worth the money. I just have no issue if a fan is happy that Crawford vs. Khan flopped, because everybody knew that fight was a joke and had it done well on PPV, there'd be no incentive for the promoter to present something better in the future.
            Well I don’t pay for non ppv espn fights, but I guess that channel is technically part of an add on package.

            PBC presentation just has a cheap feel to it and I can’t stand commercials during fights...but I’d gladly tolerate it if they were consistently airing good fights. It seems we’re in a spot where everyone seems to be trying to get a leg up on the competition and we suffer as a result. These guys all need to realize they’ll never have a monopoly over boxing so they might as well work together and make some money. At this point, I’m sure fans would happily buy a ppv every other month if it meant seeing the best fight the best.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
              What a stupid ****en answer lmao. PBC is oozing out of your PBC dick blowing body lol...
              Name a PPV that did under 200k that was considered a success.....I'll wait

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Bjl12 View Post
                Canelo is the cash cow of boxing. He is in a different league from everyone else. Maybe only Anthony Joshua (in the UK) can compare, but Canelo is a start everywhere.

                For 2nd tier stars GGG used to be at the top, but his fall from grace was significant. Now its guys like Wilder, Fury, Lomachenko, Spencer, Crawford, Pacquiao, etc. Danny Garcia probably a 2nd tier star also, but Thurman and Porter are 3rd tier at this point...too inactive and boring to matter at all
                My point is Spence's first PPV did a little less than Canelo's fight against Khan. And better than Canelo's fight against Lara, Angulo, & Smith.

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                • #98
                  Arum is desperate, he wants to make the fight. Shame he's been frozen out, ellerbe has even thrown out the idea of danny garcia, this or even next year. As network fans, this is what we want doe, war pbc!

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    Anything under 200k should not be PPV.



                    It'll do more than Canelo/Khan which only did 460k



                    And they fought in Pontiac Michigan at the Silverdome. Wtf was that?
                    lol it won’t do more than 400k.

                    The big question is which fight will Haymon lose more on? The several million he lost on Pacquiao-Broner or what he will lose on Pacquiao-Thurman? Which do you think.

                    Also their isn’t a number with if a fight belongs on ppv. Depends if it makes money.

                    For example, If Manny would have had a 6 mil guarantee and Broner 3 mil then their ppv fight would have been profitable and made sense on ppv. Just like if crawford and Khan made 3 mil each 200k would be a profitable ppv for Top Rank.

                    All depends on balance of sales and purses.

                    How much big UK money did Khan being in?

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                    • Originally posted by killakali View Post
                      lol it won’t do more than 400k.

                      The big question is which fight will Haymon lose more on? The several million he lost on Pacquiao-Broner or what he will lose on Pacquiao-Thurman? Which do you think.

                      Also their isn’t a number with if a fight belongs on ppv. Depends if it makes money.

                      For example, If Manny would have had a 6 mil guarantee and Broner 3 mil then their ppv fight would have been profitable and made sense on ppv. Just like if crawford and Khan made 3 mil each 200k would be a profitable ppv for Top Rank.

                      All depends on balance of sales and purses.

                      How much big UK money did Khan being in?
                      Broner/Pacquiao did over 400k. Pacquiao/Thurman (a FOX PPV) is doing 600k minimum. Bookmark this

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