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Old 03-20-2019, 09:46 PM #181
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How because Hearn said so?
No because he said one thing, then said another, then said he didn't say the first thing
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:00 PM #182
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No because he said one thing, then said another, then said he didn't say the first thing
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OK how about a example?
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:00 PM #183
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OK how about a example?
how about you do your own damn research before you speak fool?
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:15 PM #184
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how about you do your own damn research before you speak fool?
Your the one who makes a vague comment and im gonna go and read everything Espinoza has ever said?That's about the dumbest thing yet FOOL.God damn that's dumb you say he got caught lying not saying about what and im supposed to look it up??How could I if I wanted to? You could not even give an example??That's really dumb like Robbie dumb go away.I tried to be nice but your clearly too stupid.
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:15 PM #185
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you clearly don't know math.
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Err what? You said the fight wouldn't get made unless they offered a percentage.

Though now you're pulling some magical figure from thin air. $200 million for 1 fight with Dominic Breazeale (which can only really be worth $15 million at max) and 2 fights with Joshua. So you're basically saying they should offer Wilder close to $100 million per fight with Joshua to equate a 50/50 split... so Joshua v Wilder does $200 million per fight on Showtime?

I would love whatever you've been smoking.
Yes, DAZN needed to offer something better than what Wilder would make on Showtime PPV in an undisputed fight ($50+ million) and a rematch ($75+ million), if he won the first fight. $200 million for 3 fights (Braezaele, Joshua, Joshua II) would be about right:

A 40% split in a $150 million undisputed fight is $60 million.
A 60% split as the undisputed champion in a $200 million rematch is $120 million
Plus $20 million for a Braezaele mandatory

$200 million. As a STARTING point. That's why you only work with PERCENTAGES. DAZN wanted to use the money generated from Joshua-Wilder to cover their subscription business. PPV gives the money to the fighters who actually generated the money. So the $100 million DAZN offer was chump change for what Wilder is actually worth.
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:47 PM #186
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With the numerous offers that have come to Wilder from AJ it's pretty god damned clear that AJ wants the fight. That's just being objective.
Your not objective, I've seen your other posts.

No one knows whether Eddies recent offers are fair, or even what the details are. We do know they werent to fight AJ next anyway, they involved pre-fight(s) and then a "potential" AJ fight, and we do know his older offers were ridiculous and unfair.
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:15 AM #187
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:46 AM #188
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Exactly!!...

Why can't they just offer a one fight deal and be done!!!
They clearly want Wilder to be on DAZN for multiple fights but yet discredit him every chance they get.
All these networks are bad for boxing. I wish they can just co-promote fights and be done with the back and forth
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Old 03-21-2019, 02:09 AM #189
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Yes, DAZN needed to offer something better than what Wilder would make on Showtime PPV in an undisputed fight ($50+ million) and a rematch ($75+ million), if he won the first fight. $200 million for 3 fights (Braezaele, Joshua, Joshua II) would be about right:

A 40% split in a $150 million undisputed fight is $60 million.
A 60% split as the undisputed champion in a $200 million rematch is $120 million
Plus $20 million for a Braezaele mandatory

$200 million. As a STARTING point. That's why you only work with PERCENTAGES. DAZN wanted to use the money generated from Joshua-Wilder to cover their subscription business. PPV gives the money to the fighters who actually generated the money. So the $100 million DAZN offer was chump change for what Wilder is actually worth.
So again... where exactly have you pulled these figures of the fights being worth close to $200 million from?

You are literally making up a value for the fight based off of nothing. Whereas I can guarantee DAZN had a team of experts look extensively at everything to work out just how much it is viable to pay for the fight to be a success for them.
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Yes, DAZN needed to offer something better than what Wilder would make on Showtime PPV in an undisputed fight ($50+ million) and a rematch ($75+ million), if he won the first fight. $200 million for 3 fights (Braezaele, Joshua, Joshua II) would be about right:

A 40% split in a $150 million undisputed fight is $60 million.
A 60% split as the undisputed champion in a $200 million rematch is $120 million
Plus $20 million for a Braezaele mandatory

$200 million. As a STARTING point. That's why you only work with PERCENTAGES. DAZN wanted to use the money generated from Joshua-Wilder to cover their subscription business. PPV gives the money to the fighters who actually generated the money. So the $100 million DAZN offer was chump change for what Wilder is actually worth.
You're insanely stupid. Do you know how many PPV they would need to sell to make those numbers? They would need to sell over 2.5 mil PPV to make $100 mil in purses to split.
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