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Old 06-20-2019, 10:57 AM #11
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Manny is an international hero.

Getting KOed by a couple of unknown and then by Marquez would have not made him the greatest.

If he would had beaten Floyd he would had been much higher in the ATG standings when it was all said and done.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:59 AM #12
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He got knocked out vs marquez and people were saying he was greater than mayweather

His race has helped his historical standing

He has Filipino support in america

People bash floyd , call him a woman abuser etc, and he is american. I bet if floyd was not american he would get more respect.

people paid to see floyd lose

People paid to see manny win

So obviously any debate on who is greater by the public would inherently favour manny

I personally think p4p manny is a better fighter prime for prime. floyd was smarter in navigating through his career
So draining Cotto to 145 and fighting Margo at a CW is not navigating a career? Going after Diaz's title is another one.
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:12 AM #13
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Manny is an international hero.

Getting KOed by a couple of unknown and then by Marquez would have not made him the greatest.

If he would had beaten Floyd he would had been much higher in the ATG standings when it was all said and done.
this is not about ranking or standing bruh.. this is about how if manny was american would he be viewed differently from the people?
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:14 AM #14
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So draining Cotto to 145 and fighting Margo at a CW is not navigating a career? Going after Diaz's title is another one.
see this is a perfect example!! if manny was an american would he be receiving this type of backlash because when its an american that does something similar, all of a sudden, they get praises for it. yall remember BHOP was view as a legend because he was STILL fighting at his age? yet manny gets trashed for still being around and STILL fighting the top young fighters.
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:33 AM #15
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Heck no he’d be the laughing stock of America especially with memes. Americans are harsh when it comes to sports. He’s been knocked out 3 times he’d be a national meme if he was American. After that knockout against Marquez he wouldn’t be able to show his face outside.

He has about 7 losses no American would put him as the best. Pacquiao fans thinks his triliogies make him the greatest LMAO.
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:35 AM #16
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Manny is an international hero.

Getting KOed by a couple of unknown and then by Marquez would have not made him the greatest.

If he would had beaten Floyd he would had been much higher in the ATG standings when it was all said and done.

It’s just that simple. Americans wouldn’t give him praise for losing and getting knocked out like his fans do
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Old 06-20-2019, 12:05 PM #17
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Weird. Americans don't really glorify Americans in boxing. Look how little support Wilder gets as heavyweight champ of the world.
Pac gets a TON of credit despite a lot of losses. Even in his own generation he was 2nd to Mayweather. How does he become goat when he wasn't even the best of his era??
Smells like bullshyt.
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Not if his resume and record were the same. You can't have the losses he's had against the men he's lost to and be considered the greatest of all times fighting in the era he did.

Further, if he was American, he'd be far more scrutinized and criticized than he actually has been.

Manny is considered by most the 2nd best of his era behind Floyd and ahead of Bhop. I don't kno how any manny fan can be upset about that.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:10 PM #19
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For all those that answered my post. You asked and I gave you a response. Even if he was American that is how he wold had been viewed.

He was more dynamic at the lower weights but he still went 1-1-1 against Mexico's best 3 at the time.

(Marquez, Morales and Barrera).

Because a fighter is popular and fun to watch would to make him the greatest.
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Heck no he’d be the laughing stock of America especially with memes. Americans are harsh when it comes to sports. He’s been knocked out 3 times he’d be a national meme if he was American. After that knockout against Marquez he wouldn’t be able to show his face outside.

He has about 7 losses no American would put him as the best. Pacquiao fans thinks his triliogies make him the greatest LMAO.
yeah as if that hasnt happen already right?
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