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Old 06-20-2019, 10:12 AM #11
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It was Marquez’s first fight at welterweight, two weight classes above his last weight class.

Tim Bradley doesn’t get enough credit for beating JMM. Mayweather gets too much credit.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:12 AM #12
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I don't get the Leonard vs Duran reference here. What do you mean? I mean Duran started at a smaller weight class, but eventually was fighting at MW...And won a title there. And of course he beat SRL the first time around.
Just look at the natural size differential. Ray was a natural welterweight whilst Duran was a natural lightweight. Thatís what makes Duranís win so impressive. And whilst Rayís performance in the rematch was impressive, he had many natural physical advantages the same way Floyd had advantages against Marquez.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:18 AM #13
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So Floyd deserves all the credit for beating JMM who came up two weight classes while drinking his own urine, but Loma doesn't deserve credit for schooling Rigo and making him quit? Don't forget, Floyd also insisted on a catchweight which he didn't bother to honor, and refused to be weighed on the day of the fight.
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Gotta luv how he ran from the Tyny plodder also. Brave feller this Floyd feller.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:21 AM #14
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What a spectacular one sided display put on by Mayweather that fight. Marquez tried his best to get something going, even hit Mayweather with some very good shots, but Mayweather took them and smiled, but when Mayweather hit him, Marquez went TIMBER!!!!

Pacquaio went through 4 very tough wars with Marquez. It it only took Mayweather 1 fight.

Very underrated and overlooked win.


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Or maybe because people realize that Floyd was fighting a 2 division smaller fighter and yet didn't even dare to make weight at the 144 contracted CW...
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:29 AM #15
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What a spectacular one sided display put on by Mayweather that fight. Marquez tried his best to get something going, even hit Mayweather with some very good shots, but Mayweather took them and smiled, but when Mayweather hit him, Marquez went TIMBER!!!!

Pacquaio went through 4 very tough wars with Marquez. It it only took Mayweather 1 fight.

Very underrated and overlooked win.

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Nice try but 3 razor close wins is better than one convincing win for legacy and greatness.
Especially when the convincing win is a cheated scales win. Floyd hasn't got a legit win over a Mexican in his whole career. Nelo was a cw. Floyd s loves question marks littering his resume.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:36 AM #16
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those same posters give loma credit for rigo
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:38 AM #17
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Just look at the natural size differential. Ray was a natural welterweight whilst Duran was a natural lightweight. Thatís what makes Duranís win so impressive. And whilst Rayís performance in the rematch was impressive, he had many natural physical advantages the same way Floyd had advantages against Marquez.
Duran is GREAT and arguably the best fighter since Ali, no doubt. But I don't think this is a fair comparison. Duran at this point had already fought at WW for two years with 8 fights at or above the 147 weight limit. And then he obviously proved he can hang at MW with his performances against Hagler and Barkley.

So while it showed Duran's true greatness that he could climb the weight classes the way he did, I don't think it was exactly the same as the other examples you used.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:45 AM #18
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Or maybe because people realize that Floyd was fighting a 2 division smaller fighter and yet didn't even dare to make weight at the 144 contracted CW...
so those 2 pounds are why Floyd outboxed him?
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:47 AM #19
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No credit given...jmm went up 2 divisions made weight only to get cheated on the scales by floyd...
And was so fat that he had to go back down to 135 and stayed there for 2 years.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:50 AM #20
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so those 2 pounds are why Floyd outboxed him?
Or so those 12 pounds why Spence outboxed Mikey? Lomachenko outboxed Rigo? We all know how size advantage comes in boxing.

Spence doesn't get credit schooling Mikey, nor does Loma on Rigo nor does Floyd.
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