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Old 04-29-2019, 03:22 PM #21
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I'm not a huge Bible thumper but the core of it's teachings can be simplified down to the Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Looking out for your own interests and pleasures can very quickly degenerate into using others.
have u read the satanic bible? i read the first few pages and had to keep going. it was interesting and made sense. that book sums up humanity better than christianity does. we are selfish beings at the core. satanism is all about selfishness. "as long as im good, everything is good"
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Old 04-29-2019, 06:06 PM #22
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They will present their religion in an acceptable package in order to get you in the door.

Then slowly warp you into their true beliefs a little over time.

Just like they supposedly did when they took over the Masonic lodges. Only the higher level members had the full picture of what each level of initiation was ultimately leading to.

Satan has been referred to as the Great Deceiver and the Father of Lies. So deception of this kind would be right up their alley.
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This right here...

These "tenets" seem a lot more Wiccan than Satanist to me. It certainly doesn't seem to line up with what I read in the satanic Bible. It was more self serving and about immediate gratification rather than really caring about the rights of others and nature
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There is a lot to unpack: First, one has to clearly make some divisions:

1) Atheist/ HUmanist. These belief systems want human beings to become great. The archetype is Prometheus the bringer of the flame... the flame allows Humans to grow, to become stronger and challenge the gods.

Socialism, Existentalism, Zionism are all movements that come out of this understanding. The Atheist from this perspective is not one with an ABSENCE of belief regarding God, but rather is is antagonistic towards a belief in any power not of organic origin. It is hostile towards religion.

2) Old Religions. This is the category of Pagan, Druid, mesoAmerican, and other religions involving sacrifice and the worship of spirits.

3) Illuminati religions. These traditions involve sacrifice and control. They include any religious tradition where the empror is divine. The Pharoah, the Shinto God Hirahito (the empror of Japan), The Gods of the ancient world like Baal...

What makes these religions distinct is that people can be possessed by en****** and made a representative of the spirit force. If we look at Christianity and other Monotheistic traditions they all have the same elements....The Pope for example, as the representative of God, the sacrifice, where the flesh of Christ and his Blood is consumed....

4) Satanism is in fact a combination of certain elements regarding humanism... The belief that people should be free of God, be true to their self nature...Along with the old religions where a demon is worshipped, sacrifices made, etc.

Different traditions of Satanism have slightly different beliefs. But at their heart they all are about control and taking power from others. We have:

- Aquino, who developed Satanism as a religion in the Army. His take is that Satan is really a manifestation of Seth the Egyptian God. Aquino has been implicated by many witnesses involving alleged trafficking and mind control.

-Slice and Dice. A lot of the whistle blowers for the illuminati, men such as Jay parker for example, talk about a group of working class, Satanists who carry on sacrifices, trainings and meetings for the greater good of the Illuminati. These people are sometimes called "Witches" the practice is the same...taking natural power and making it work under the control of that which commands it.

-Devil Worship. This is what it sounds like. the worship of not Lucifer so much... Lucifer who is often discussed like Apollo, as an organized, rational intelligence... BUT with Pan, or Satan, the Dionayscian....The wine drinker howling at the moon.

This is what the entertainment industry is caught up in... It is sick and dangerous.
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Much of what is considered satanism today has its Origins from Aleister Crowley...

He's the self-described "Beast" wana be (The real Beast is yet to be.) spoken of in the book of Revelation...
He wrote his book in about 3 days after being allegedly under control by Satan...

The main theme he was told was "do as thou wilt" or do as you will... This was later adapted in the satanist bible, but its origins in modern time, was through Aleister Crowley...

In his day, Crawley was given the title of wickedest man in the world... Many unspeakable acts were committed by him... Every sexual perversion culminating with both human and animal blood sacrifice including Children, were done by him and his followers...

He was also led by Satan to introduce the drug Society into the world...
The Beatles were greatly influenced by Aleister Crowley and he is pictured in their famous album cover Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band...

The Beatles called Aleister Crowley "Sergeant Pepper" and wrote the song about him...
The opening lyric commemorates the death of Aleister Crowley...
"It was 20 years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play..."

In his life, Aleister Crowley was a rich kid who spent his inheritance wealth on drugs and the pursuit of evil...
He died broke and a heroin addict, ravaged by the STD syphilis...

Don't be fooled by anything satanist...
The dime store variety inspired by this thread is simply a gateway drug...
The first step on the path to self-destruction...

Know this, as Mankind we are created in the image of God and certain protections are afforded us regardless if we are Christian or not...

Those protections are stripped away by denouncing God and embracing evil which ultimately become forms of demon worship/satan worship...

A person doesn't need to be cognizant of the fact that they are worshipping a demon, to be a demon worshipper... If the person is doing the will of the demons/Satan then they become followers...

There is no reasoning with them, they must trick us into allowing them to gain control over us... Still even in that state, the name of Jesus can deliver you...

That is why it is of particular interest to them for you to blaspheme the name of Jesus... They want to remove you as far as possible from any potential Saving Grace...

Try to understand what you're dealing with here... Imagine a serial killer who wants to inflict as much pain and suffering as humanly possible upon their victim... They want every individual they come in contact with to become their victims, and they enjoy every second of it and would continue indefinitely if allowed...

Not only that, but they enjoy deceiving their victims into willingly offering themselves to them, until their true agenda is revealed and it's too late for the victim to escape...

(They thoroughly enjoy torturing the innocent, a innocence that they don't have... A innocence that allows us to be saved at any time by calling upon the name of Jesus Christ...)

Then they look to God and say look what I have done to who was created in your image... They hate us, every single one of us simply for who we are...
You stay away from them, all of them...

Jesus Christ is their Kryptonite, and Jesus Christ is our Savior !!!
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I'm not a huge Bible thumper but the core of it's teachings can be simplified down to the Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Looking out for your own interests and pleasures can very quickly degenerate into using others.
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have u read the satanic bible? i read the first few pages and had to keep going. it was interesting and made sense. that book sums up humanity better than christianity does. we are selfish beings at the core. satanism is all about selfishness. "as long as im good, everything is good"
pleasure seeking sounds great to everybody as a motivation or religion but it gets bad very quickly, because someone will want to experience the pleasure that comes from raping a 3 year old girl (or boy, does it matter?) and from doing really disgusting things to other people. it should be obvious already that our society is F'ed because of everybody doing whatever they want without realizing the consequences for everybody else. the satanic bible basically explains why the earth has always been a ball of chaos
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Old 04-29-2019, 06:52 PM #23
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Let me address this part of your post.

There is some evidence that Socialism and Zionism were movements fomented and funded by the Rothschild banking cartel.

As you know they are usually the prime suspects when it comes to demon worship being practiced by the rich and powerful.

If true that would paint the humanism and atheism you mention in a different light.

I haven't checked yet but how much do you want to bet that Existentialism had the same patrons? When I have time I'll do a Google search for "Jean Paul Sartre, Camus, and Rothschild."
Its hard to pinpoint the influences. Socialism and Zionism, and we can also put Existentialism in this group, are political offshoots that powerful groups have run with. There are academic roots, and there are political groups that use these movements to consolidate power and there is actually a difference.

I think all these groups have smaller groups that come out of the bigger controlling interests.

However there is a study of humanism, existentialism and socialism that is not part of these groups. And Ill prove it to you:

1) I guarantee you that most people have no idea who invented the existential school of thought. By the way, SArtre was not really even an existentialist. He was steeped in Greek thought, and copied off German thinkers like Hiedegger. The French came late to existentialism and when they did, it was first done through literature. Only when Focault and Derrida, through post modern thought, tackled existentialism, did it become a historically important, and relevant study...and this was later in existentialist history. Focault particularly is worth reading!

So who invented Existentialist thought? Nobody would guess...But it was Soren Kierkegaard. He did so as an attempt to legitmately challenge his faith, thinking the inquiry would strengthen his faith when in fact.... it did the opposite.

Socialism is much the same. Marxist thought is misunderstood and misrepresented especially in this country. Its complicated...But if we take Zionism this is a socialist movement that might be exclusively for political gain.
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Old 04-29-2019, 07:25 PM #24
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pleasure seeking sounds great to everybody as a motivation or religion but it gets bad very quickly, because someone will want to experience the pleasure that comes from raping a 3 year old girl (or boy, does it matter?) and from doing really disgusting things to other people. it should be obvious already that our society is F'ed because of everybody doing whatever they want without realizing the consequences for everybody else. the satanic bible basically explains why the earth has always been a ball of chaos
Also, historically the focus point has shifted considerably. We used to look at the Egyptians as the rational, ordered group that Western culture took its initial impetus from...To the Egyptians, Seti, the force that was most similar to the devil, was in fact a counterbalance to that which we saw, through the sun... Seti being the unseen, the darkness, so to speak.

Scholars then decided that the Greeks, previously thought to be compulsive, emotional driven individuals, were to become the organizing principle! To the Greeks, happiness and goodness was the same, with ignorance being unintentional stupidity. The Greeks also like the Egyptians, held that the world was of two phases: Apollo, the sun god, was the principle of order, structure, rationality, predictability...His opposite was Bachus/Dionysian, the wine god, who was impulsive, sensual, and emotionally driven... a god that willed us to enjoy ourselves, to find pleasure in our animal nature.

Notice that in both of these cultural ideas, there was no operative principle of depriving others, of harming others, and (very important) of taking power from others, in order to experience that which was mysterious, disordered... Satanism and moral depravity seems to come from other sources: First, we have the sacrifice, which amounts to taking something from another for your benefit. All religions had this within them. Then we have the older gods who were not ethical, and wanted worship in exchange for power, and the many forces in nature which demanded the same. These are the ideas that created a system where one could take the life, property, and even the essence of another, for their own selfish reasons.

When we look at what modern satanism is we see those attributes. for example, where as the atheist used to be one who did not engage in talk of spirits or God...Atheists become power hungry, demanding that others abstain from God. Where as Humanism was about natural processes, reasoning, man trying to stretch and accomplish more, it became a way to engender Satanism which I agree with Shoulder Roll on 100%. In other words, Satanism became, from a way to experience the mysterious, that which was hidden in the well ordered work of the Gods, simply a way to take power away from others, just as religion often did.
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Old 04-30-2019, 12:22 AM #25
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No thanks bro, like dont Satanists put curses and spells on you if you even look at them the "wrong" way & in disgust or make fun of them? I wouldnt since they scare the crap out of me but I sure as hell would refuse service to them like at the workplace **** @ least LGBTQ people arent some evil occultists

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