Is the WBA Fair Boxing program a joke?

[ShoulderRoll]

So what is this about then?

Keith Thurman
29 0 0
22 KOs 0 KOs
ID #426053
role boxer
rating
7 / 1,742
5 / 363
VADA CBP enrolled
bouts 30
rounds 148
KOs 73%


Manny Pacquiao
61 7 2
39 KOs 3 KOs

ID #006129
role boxer promoter
rating
3 / 1,742
1 / 39
VADA CBP enrolled
bouts 70
rounds 474
KOs 56%

CBP stands for Clean Boxing Program. But that is the WBC's program.

Pacquiao vs Thurman will not involve the WBC. The belts at stake are the WBA super and regular.

[4truth]

CBP stands for Clean Boxing Program. But that is the WBC's program.

Pacquiao vs Thurman will not involve the WBC. The belts at stake are the WBA super and regular.

You said this:

But Pacquiao vs Thurman will not have VADA testing.

but I do not think it's a true statement.

[ShoulderRoll]

You said this:

but I do not think it's a true statement.

Pacquiao-Thurman: No VADA Testing In Place for July 20 PPV Event
https://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao...-event--140272

[champion4ever]

Best part is LDBC cry Canelo and injustice but are quiet when you mention Tony or RJJ...

Or better, they cry from a nano trace of a banned substance where a fight is cancelled, a fighter doesn’t even perform, though wins in better fashion upon his return, and again, the LDBC, will keep quiet not to question PBC and Haymon with no advanced drug testing. The karma is approaching

Well then let's talk about the Euro fighters like: Billy Joe Saunders, Lucas Browne, Tyson Fury, Alexander Povetkin, Andrzej Wawrzyk. They all popped dirty for PED use and banned substances also.

Just to state for the record, Roy Jones, Jr had only a disputed claim of doping. He has never officially been popped for any type of juicing or banned substances.

In addition, those Androstenedione results were never confirmed or officially disclosed or proven. They were only leaked to the press by Richard Hall, some three years later; about an alleged drug test, that he and Roy failed, which Jones claimed he got from an over the counter supplement called "Ripped Fuel".

However, never came of it because the state of Indiana never demanded a B sample; So Jones never gave them one. Therefore, he was never suspended or banned from the sport because of it.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Just to state for the record, Roy Jones, Jr had only a disputed claim of doping. He has never officially been popped for any type of juicing or banned substances.

In addition, those Androstenedione results were never confirmed or officially disclosed or proven. They were only leaked to the press by Richard Hall, some three years later; about an alleged drug test, that he and Roy failed, which Jones claimed he got from an over the counter supplement called "Ripped Fuel".

Do you have any idea what RJJ was for HBO in the 90’s? He was the man and the man who drove HBO subscriptions. There wasn’t advanced drug testing back then and the public would eat anything about “Ripped Fuel.” More comical, Richard Hall popped too.. ffs

Let me remind you, there WAS NO ADVANCED DRUG TESTING IN BOXING back then, only a post fight urine test.

If today, the modern stage Jarrell Miller only gets a slap on the wrist for 3 notorious PEDS you think it wasn’t easy to cover up RJJ?

Don’t be naive dude.

[4truth]

Pacquiao-Thurman: No VADA Testing In Place for July 20 PPV Event
https://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao...-event--140272

Thanks for that info.

It leaves me wondering though, since both boxers are, apparently, still enrolled in the VADA CBP, are they currently subject to random testing?

[ShoulderRoll]

Thanks for that info.

It leaves me wondering though, since both boxers are, apparently, still enrolled in the VADA CBP, are they currently subject to random testing?

CBP is not 24/7/365 testing.

[champion4ever]

Do you have any idea what RJJ was for HBO in the 90’s? He was the man and the man who drove HBO subscriptions. There wasn’t advanced drug testing back then and the public would eat anything about “Ripped Fuel.” More comical, Richard Hall popped too.. ffs

Let me remind you, there WAS NO ADVANCED DRUG TESTING IN BOXING back then, only a post fight urine test.

If today, the modern stage Jarrell Miller only gets a slap on the wrist for 3 notorious PEDS you think it wasn’t easy to cover up RJJ?

Don’t be naive dude.

I agree. It's more than likely he did it but they couldn't prove it because of the lack of testing protocol they have today and just decided to sweep it under the rug and looked the other way because he was larger than boxing at the time.

I am pretty sure that somebody at AOL/Time/Warner paid to make sure that that dirty test result went away. However, there is no question that James Toney popped dirty for doping after his fight with John Ruiz

They straight up outed him. The NYSAC doesn't play. Not only did they suspend him for 90 days but the WBA gave him a two year ban from ever competing for another one of their titles again as well.

[4truth]

CBP is not 24/7/365 testing.

http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADA/wp-cont...uts-Policy.pdf

What is it then? Their description sounds like that is exactly what it is.

[ShoulderRoll]

http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADA/wp-cont...uts-Policy.pdf

What is it then? Their description sounds like that is exactly what it is.

24/7/365 VADA program is far more rigorous than WBC Clean Boxing Program (which VADA also oversees).

— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) May 16, 2018