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Old 06-19-2019, 01:24 PM #31
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Mexicans are rivaling blacks for hating on each other. Abel just be happy for the man and keep your mouth shut. Sounds like when Marquez hating on Canelo, Morales hating on Barrera on Marquez. Chavez jr and Sr hating on Canelo and Oscar.

Wtf? There is enough to go around. This is Ruiz's time to bask in the glory of his success. The rematch, if it ever happens, is not really no one's to predict just as how no one ever really predicted the upset.
In México we have a phrase

"The worst enemy of a mexican, is a other mexican"

Thats the reason why Canelo has a lot of mexican haters

Abel is salty because Andy won his title with another mexican coach and don't with him
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:27 PM #32
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He already said he was happy for Ruiz. Anyone can predict any fight, its what we all do and its pretty much all fans talk about outside the actual action. Why should he shut up? Abit extreme aint it?
Abel is a hypocrite b.itch, first of all.

He said "refocused" Joshua, so, he is saying that was the big difference in the fight and that Joshua only need to be refocused.

He is not giving Andy his props, Joshua was at his best and Andy too, the better man won, not the less focused or something sh.it like that

And mexicans always are hating each other .
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:32 PM #33
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1) why is everything about race now? I used to like boxing being about skill and not race

2) Ruiz was a huge underdog for a reason. He went down the first time AJ landed. AJ went in for the kill and blew himself out and got clipped a few times doing so. He never recovered.

I can’t say for sure who will win the rematch but I can’t see AJ performing that badly ever again. He didn’t have his Matchroom refs and pre fight handjob from Adam Smith and maybe that was enough to faze him.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:45 PM #34
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Andy dominated that first fight. AJ will be under even more pressure the second time around! AJ is going down in round No 2. End of story.

After that he can face one of the two circus clowns and offer them 25% of total revenues.
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Old 06-19-2019, 02:06 PM #35
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I don't think focus was the issue for Joshua.
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Old 06-19-2019, 04:15 PM #36
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He already said he was happy for Ruiz. Anyone can predict any fight, its what we all do and its pretty much all fans talk about outside the actual action. Why should he shut up? Abit extreme aint it?
His argument is really saying that was a Joshua's loss and not Ruiz's win, which, in mind, discredits Ruiz. He should congratulate him on his victory and keep it moving. If they ask for his prediction keeps it classy. Let them know anything can happen in boxing as no one predicted the last outcome.

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Old 06-19-2019, 04:22 PM #37
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Abel is a hypocrite b.itch, first of all.

He said "refocused" Joshua, so, he is saying that was the big difference in the fight and that Joshua only need to be refocused.

He is not giving Andy his props, Joshua was at his best and Andy too, the better man won, not the less focused or something sh.it like that

And mexicans always are hating each other .
Abel says alot of stupid stuff. He said 80s Mike Tyson wasnt a dominant heavyweight champ. But alot of people think AJ wasnt right for that fight. Its just an opinion. For the record i dont think that myself. AJ doesn't do well with quick guys, even Povetkin showed that early. Unless he can move and jab, use hes reach, i think he'll lose the rematch too.
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Old 06-19-2019, 04:27 PM #38
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Is argument is really saying that was a Joshua's loss and not Ruiz's win, which, in mind, discredits Ruiz. He should congratulate him on his victory and keep it moving. If they ask for his prediction keeps it classy. Let them know anything can happen in boxing as no one predicted the last outcome.
Yeah, i get what you're saying, my point is its the same opinion alot of people have about the fight. I dont agree with that view, but Abel being a Mexican shouldnt mean hes not allowed to express it. Its abit like every interview at the Mayweather gym picking the African American, its boring because its not a boxing opinion, its what they feel they should be saying. It's good that Mexicans dont do this, even if their opinion is nonsense, which alot of what Abel says frankly is.
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Old 06-19-2019, 04:31 PM #39
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Yeah you can. It's called defense and staying away. AJ's mistake was that after he knocked Ruiz down he got careless and went for the KO.

He squatted down to get more leverage on his punches and got caught behind the ear.

All he has to do is use his height, stay behind the jab and throw the overhand right. He gets the ko.
He can only hide that Chin because once it gets touched again it will shatter like glass Joe
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Old 06-19-2019, 04:36 PM #40
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I'm beginning to think that Abel is a bit of a fraud so far as his ability to train fighters at this level. Like his complaining about Golovkin not sticking to the plan of, apparently, just coming forward. Golovkin was smart enough and experienced enough to see the folly of that "plan". Golovkin was not getting the best of exchanges inside because he just didn't have the hand speed. Moving and controlling distance he had some success but Abel still hasn't figured that out.
It really is no wonder that talented fighters like Ruiz don't stay around long. That Golovkin left too wasn't hard to figure, what was hard to figure was why it took him so long.
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