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Old 05-28-2019, 06:01 PM #11
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It's honestly pathetic.

These forums are a joke lol. All these threads have an agenda, and it's usually always against PBC.
I would say top rank gets the most hate on this site then number 2 would be pbc then number 3 DAZN/Hearn.

They all get a lot of hate but none more than arum here
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:25 PM #12
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:42 PM #13
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What happens and what is done in AMERICA Influences the WORLD so it is no need honestly! Why do you think Foreigners want to COME to America? It is a reason why most International Fighters Dream is the make it big in the States and not anywhere Else. That is why GGG, Loma, Canelo and all of the excellent International Fighters are fighting here and not in their own countries or anywhere else

That being said, it is deals being made on a fight to fight based with Networks from all over the world. That is where these "Second Checks" are coming from among other things. When you don't have a promoter, you get all of that money from overseas that Promoters typically don't even tell fighters ABOUT! Global Television Rights Fees can accumulate into some HUGE Checks "Allegedly"

Kinda funny though when you guys on this Forum take other people threads and just change the name. You see the thread about Eddie Hearn, now you want to come and make one about Al Haymon
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:46 PM #14
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What happens and what is done in AMERICA Influences the WORLD so it is no need honestly! Why do you think Foreigners want to COME to America? It is a reason why most International Fighters Dream is the make it big in the States and not anywhere Else. That is why GGG, Loma, Canelo and all of the excellent International Fighters are fighting here and not in their own countries or anywhere else

That being said, it is deals being made on a fight to fight based with Networks from all over the world. That is where these "Second Checks" are coming from among other things. When you don't have a promoter, you get all of that money from overseas that Promoters typically don't even tell fighters ABOUT! Global Television Rights Fees can accumulate into some HUGE Checks "Allegedly"

Kinda funny though when you guys on this Forum take other people threads and just change the name. You see the thread about Eddie Hearn, now you want to come and make one about Al Haymon
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Actually, international fighters go to the US as they don't have a boxing system up and running in their own country.

UK fighters go over there to open up another market. And due to Americans not willing to travel so they go to them to allow them to feel safe. Sometimes that isn't even good enough.
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:48 PM #15
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I don't really care about Haymon opening up in other countries. I just want him to make the fights that boxing needs considering the stable he's got. Do that and i'm happy.

Well, have his fighters fight those from other stables when the big money is on the table as well.
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:59 PM #16
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Actually, international fighters go to the US as they don't have a boxing system up and running in their own country.

UK fighters go over there to open up another market. And due to Americans not willing to travel so they go to them to allow them to feel safe. Sometimes that isn't even good enough.
Traveling to the UK is not really worth it most of the time to be honest. Also Time Differences leaves the Americans with the strangest start times which effects PPV's and would leave just way too much money on the table especially for big fights. Some people work on Saturdays so Boxing in the Afternoon typically doesn't do well in America ratings wise.

Also fighters talked about Taxes in the UK being extremely high, 50%? Yeah I don't blame them for not going over!
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Lastly, it is just way more money in America! You don't even need to sell a lot of Tickets or sell a lot of PPV's to make a lot of money in America as a Boxer because Networks and Investors put up a lot of money. DAZN guaranteeing AJ the biggest Purse of his career to come fight in America vs Andy Ruiz

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Traveling to the UK is not really worth it most of the time to be honest. Also Time Differences leaves the Americans with the strangest start times which effects PPV's and would leave just way too much money on the table especially for big fights. Some people work on Saturdays so Boxing in the Afternoon typically doesn't do well in America ratings wise.

Also fighters talked about Taxes in the UK being extremely high, 50%? Yeah I don't blame them for not going over!
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Lastly, it is just way more money in America! You don't even need to sell a lot of Tickets or sell a lot of PPV's to make a lot of money in America as a Boxer because Networks and Investors put up a lot of money. DAZN guaranteeing AJ the biggest Purse of his career to come fight in America vs Andy Ruiz
Why is it not worth it?

Nearly all these Americans are not even PPV fighters. So that excuse doesn't wash.

So their numbers will be down a bit in the US due to times, just like it is with Brits fighting over there and having to watch in the AM. But do you see them using these excuses and being terrified to travel? No you don't. Just own up and acknowledge that Americans hate travelling because they lose nearly every time they do. They don't have the character for it. Never have, never will. Jeez, they even duck fights that are offered on home soil. Travelling just adds to their fears.

Tax is 40% like it is in the US. So I've blown that excuse out of the water too.

More money in the US? Funny, Hearn offers them their biggest paydays to come fight over here. Just look at the Welter situation when he was trying to get Brook fights. Wilder and Ward were offered more money. So yeah, that's not true either.

DAZN isn't an American company, so they're not offering anything. Plus, most of the money is coming from UK PPV for AJ's purse.

AJ earns more than what Wilder and Fury made combined on PPV in the US. And that's just UK money. Plenty of money is over here.
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A lot of people claim that PBC/Al Haymon is the biggest group in boxing but I notice that they never hosted a single card outside of the US?

ISn't boxing a world sport? Oscar, Arum, Hearn have hosted cards in many countries and even different continents.

Is the only thing Haymon needs from the rest of the world boxing is the Joshua vs Wilder matchup?
The Brook vs Spence fight & card was done over there
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No chance, Hearn already snatched up the whole talent pool of Italy lol. Nothing left for Haymon.
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