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Old 05-06-2019, 12:08 AM #11
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:36 AM #12
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As has already been pointed out to you, the history of boxing over the last several centuries (and even further back to ancient times) will of course already have been discussed at length in a place like this. Though you couldn't know that, after just a few weeks here.

So Kudos to you for wanting to educate yourself on the sport and taking time to do some research of your own.

By the way, 18th Century London bare-knuckle prizefights were not fought under the Marquees of Queensberry rules. This came much later (1860s or thereabouts), and laid down the ground rules for gloved boxing.
- -Amen Bundana, and if you ain't yet seen it, John Wayne and Victor McLaglan had a classic conversation about the Marquis of Queensbury in The Quiet Man circa 1940s.

Btw, Cabeza de Vaca expedition in the early 1500s made the first Euro contact with the North American tribes in Floriduh where they were quickly routed by the ancestral Seminoles.

The few survivors washed up on Galveston Island where they were enslaved for many years with nary a stitch of clothes.

When the men of a tribe had a dispute, they'd settle it with a fist fight instead of arrows, knives, or clubs as a point of honor.

Given those tribes mostly came over from Asia during the ice age that ended 10,000 years ago, it's quite probable fist fighting within the context of rules is even older, but also less provable as far as surviving forensic evidence.
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Old 05-06-2019, 05:04 PM #13
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Brief history of boxings origins. In ancient Greece, boxing was a popular amateur competitive sport and was included in the first Olympic Games. ... In the 18th Century boxing was revived in London in the form of bare-knuckle prizefights in which the contestants fought for money and the spectators made wagers on the outcome. The fighters fought under the rules known commonly as the marquees of Queensburys rules.

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Root around this section for some great research... As far as Boxing the usual debates that happen involve what we want to call boxing:

So you will get dunderheads like Queenie who will point out that ancient Aborigines would settle land disputes by standing on their heads and foot boxing.... obviously this is not quite what one has in mind...

If we look at our cultural roots and conventional fist fighting we see a lot of development in Greece, not so much in Rome, and in Egypt, it was more of a martial application. But the Greeks and their sporting ways had boxing that was very similar to what we know of it now.

By the time one gets to conventional times we are talking about fencing and duels which killed people a lot. James Figg who is credited with inventing boxing, used fencing technique and language to conceive of boxing and from there is where we get conventional boxing as we know it today.

There are TONS of threads around about this, take a look!
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James Figg who is credited with inventing boxing, used fencing technique and language to conceive of boxing and from there is where we get conventional boxing as we know it today.
- -James wouldn't give a fig for you, but he did reserve the cudgel exclusively for your proto ancesters.

Easy money always speaks loudest then and now.
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