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Old 04-24-2019, 02:14 AM #311
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Hearn can send an offer for 7-8 mil contingent on a blood test before signing and king kong's team will still find a way to reject it. The old man is dirty, like most of other boxers, he just wasn't expecting to be tested so soon.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:20 AM #312
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Guys are so protective of the stiff U.K. coward that this isnt even a "duck" situation to begin with lmao. Joshua is the one with the date penciled in lol. Ortiz isn't a mandatory. Fight Andy Ruiz. l can't believe that this fraud still has this many beat ass fans still protecting his cowardice lol...
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:23 AM #313
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I thought Hearn was promising the replacement the same money that Miller was going to make - surely that would have been sufficient.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:44 AM #314
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Yes he did. Very disappointed Ortiz would turn any offer down, chance of a lifetime for him and he's got very little time left
Damn you beat us at the emirates
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:07 AM #315
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What was his previous highest payday. The $500,000 for the Wilder fight? I can't believe for a second that Hearn didn't offer him a career high to face Joshua.

A career high pay day, a shot at 3 belts, a fight he's 'apparently' been calling out for. And he's walked away.

After all that talk by him and Joshua haters. Time to leave Ortiz's name at the door. He didn't wan't to know when his bluff was called
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Yeah, an Ortiz fan here that feels the same way. It isn't really about how much they were offered. If it was $500,001 it was his highest offer ever. And I think we can all safely assume it was in the low millions, so that is all there is to it.

It is about passing up the chance of a lifetime, one that would open up many more million dollar paydays so long as Ortiz either lost well in an exciting fight or (sweet southern tea, can we imagine it) he actually would have won. But while I think most of us realize Joshua would win this, even losing in the manner he did against Wilder would have increased his earnings over the next couple years of fights he has. An exciting fighter earns fans. Ortiz has proven he is an exciting fighter in the right circumstance. Largest stage yet, largest payday, three belts, and a career defining bout staring him right in the face. And he passes.

He blew it. Period.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:15 AM #316
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What is wrong with this guys nowadays, they don`t wanna even fight for 3 world championship belts? Ok, guys like Kownacki are still undefeated, I can understand them, they are still building their careers. But Ortiz is 40 years old and not undefeated, what the hell is he waiting for?

In near future guys like Usyk, Dubois, Joyce..will get their chances..
Go ask dildo whyte why he turned down a shot 3 world titles.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:25 AM #317
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It doesn't make sense that Hearn would low-ball Ortiz to such a degree as to insult him, because Hearn is the desperate one.
Carmenate would have been in the driver's seat to negotiate a decent payday for the most recognisable name available.
This has Haymon's vindictiveness all over it, he likes to shaft people just because he can.

A.J came all the way over here, cancelling a date at Wembley to placate the Americans and now their prize stud has pissed dirtier than a rehab reject, all the so-called 'big names' at HW don't want an opportunity to fight on 6 weeks notice for what would surely be at least close to what Miller was promised (plus the chance to grab three major belts)?

What's holding these fighters back?
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:27 AM #318
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Sad.

Horrible decision by Ortiz's team.

He's a Cuban fighter who is very talented but he:
a) is fighting in the US without much of a fanbase - he is appreciated by hardcore fans but he doesn't bring much to the table
b) is getting very close to retirement. It is very very very hard to believe that in the circumstances he wasn't offered low millions. He's not from NY, he doesn't bring the same $ to the table as Miller, so he should necessarily get the same as Miller, but even half is around $3m which is so much more than he's ever earned and would create a nice nest egg for him and his family.

As for Ortiz's management. How stupid can you be to badmouth Hearn like this? Does this help Ortiz get the financial windfall fight in the future, when time is so short for this guy? I don't think so.

Just dreadful and the loser is Ortiz.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:31 AM #319
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Whatever Ortiz was offered it is more than he will get for his next fight and probably the one after that and of course he will be a year or so older . Something is only worth what you can get for it , no more and no less .. when are these fighters going to detach their selves from this social media over inflated value they get from keyboard warriors that fuel their egos with telling them what they want to hear and no idea about the fight game and it's realities.. come to think of it life's realities.. FFS Ortiz is so old now when will life changing money come around again ?
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:32 AM #320
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Good point and real ..
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