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If so, consider the following.
Right now Manny has 5 HOFers beaten: DLH, Mosley, Morales, Barrera, and JMM.
Floyd has 4: DLH, Gatti, JMM, and Mosley.
Looking at Manny's resume, there are currently 6 more fighters on it that are either locks for the Hall or have a decent shot to make it: Oscar Larios, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Timothy Bradley, Jesse Vargas, and Adrien Broner.
For Floyd, there are 11: Genaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, Robert Guerrero, Marcos Maidana, Miguel Cotto, Canelo Alvarez, and Manny Pacquiao himself.
Now, it's likely not all of those potentials get in. My guess is Miguel and Ricky get in, which still would have Pac one ahead. I also think Timothy Bradley will make it for Pac. For Floyd, it's pretty much a slam dunk that Canelo and Pac get in, which has us tied at 8.
From there, it's an avalanche for Floyd. Because if Vargas and Broner get in, every other name on Floyd's list has a legit argument to be in.
Some get in anyway. Zab will definitely go. Guerrero is a two weightclass guy, made the p4p list in his career, and held interim belts in TWO OTHER weightclasses. Maidana is a two weightclass guy involved in several FOTY candidates. JLC is considered one of the best lightweights of his era, Diego Corrales has two weightclasses, multiple titles in those divisions and a lineal (for reference, Buddy McGirt got in last year with similar hardware). Hernandez and Chavez also have outside chances. But even without those last two, and allowing that everyone else makes it, Floyd will be ahead 13 to 11.
13 to 11 allowing every potential Pacquiao candidate in while excluding 2 of Mayweather's.
So, how important is HOFers beaten to legacy? And yes, feel free to qualify the quality of the wins...but remember to be objective. You can't talk about how great Pacquiao’s win over DLH was without conceding that Floyd fought him over a year and a half earlier at his natural weight.
Have fun arguing -er- discussing this.
Right now Manny has 5 HOFers beaten: DLH, Mosley, Morales, Barrera, and JMM.
Floyd has 4: DLH, Gatti, JMM, and Mosley.
Looking at Manny's resume, there are currently 6 more fighters on it that are either locks for the Hall or have a decent shot to make it: Oscar Larios, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Timothy Bradley, Jesse Vargas, and Adrien Broner.
For Floyd, there are 11: Genaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, Robert Guerrero, Marcos Maidana, Miguel Cotto, Canelo Alvarez, and Manny Pacquiao himself.
Now, it's likely not all of those potentials get in. My guess is Miguel and Ricky get in, which still would have Pac one ahead. I also think Timothy Bradley will make it for Pac. For Floyd, it's pretty much a slam dunk that Canelo and Pac get in, which has us tied at 8.
From there, it's an avalanche for Floyd. Because if Vargas and Broner get in, every other name on Floyd's list has a legit argument to be in.
Some get in anyway. Zab will definitely go. Guerrero is a two weightclass guy, made the p4p list in his career, and held interim belts in TWO OTHER weightclasses. Maidana is a two weightclass guy involved in several FOTY candidates. JLC is considered one of the best lightweights of his era, Diego Corrales has two weightclasses, multiple titles in those divisions and a lineal (for reference, Buddy McGirt got in last year with similar hardware). Hernandez and Chavez also have outside chances. But even without those last two, and allowing that everyone else makes it, Floyd will be ahead 13 to 11.
13 to 11 allowing every potential Pacquiao candidate in while excluding 2 of Mayweather's.
So, how important is HOFers beaten to legacy? And yes, feel free to qualify the quality of the wins...but remember to be objective. You can't talk about how great Pacquiao’s win over DLH was without conceding that Floyd fought him over a year and a half earlier at his natural weight.
Have fun arguing -er- discussing this.
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