His body of work clearly makes him top 10 and I don't think there's much debate.
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Wladimir Klitschko is a top 10 ATG Heavyweight.
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Maybe he is or maybe not. His losses by KO will always come up especially by those who disagree he is top 10. I think his brother is better than him. Vitali only lost twice due to cuts and injuries and was never knocked down in his career.
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Originally posted by JasonBoxing View PostHis body of work clearly makes him top 10 and I don't think there's much debate.
Wlad gets stopped, claims his opponent drugged his water...Vitali gets stppped, he runs around screaming at the ref begging him to let him continue. On paper and to casuals, like You, he was 10x better... factually, Vitali would of killed him in 3 rounds.
Vitali gives ANY heavyweight from ANY era hell and beats a lot/most of them, where as Wlad imo loses to...jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ali, Liston, Frazier, Norton, Holmes, Foreman, shavers, Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Tyson and Vitali....
that’s just off the top of my head probably missed another 5 at least. P4P you could make a list of about 25 guys clearly more skilled than Wlad.
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Originally posted by N!Ck F. View PostHe’s the definition of ********* boxer, right next to Calzaghe. They are complete opposites. Wlad, arguably the most overrated champion in history while Vitali one of the toughest. Wlad has 0 heart. As Roy Jones would say “he’s like a pit bull that can’t fight off the bottom” meaning Wlad can dish out punishment but as soon as he gets it he folds.
Wlad gets stopped, claims his opponent drugged his water...Vitali gets stppped, he runs around screaming at the ref begging him to let him continue. On paper and to casuals, like You, he was 10x better... factually, Vitali would of killed him in 3 rounds.
Vitali gives ANY heavyweight from ANY era hell and beats a lot/most of them, where as Wlad imo loses to...jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ali, Liston, Frazier, Norton, Holmes, Foreman, shavers, Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Tyson and Vitali....
that’s just off the top of my head probably missed another 5 at least. P4P you could make a list of about 25 guys clearly more skilled than Wlad.
How many Sonny Listen fights?
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Originally posted by larry spence View Postwhat would be your top 10?
1- Muhammad Ali
2-Joe Louis
3 to 10 becomes very debatable. Lewis, Holyfield,Tyson,Foreman,Holmes,Wladimir,Frazier,Li ston,
Johnson for various reasons can all be ranked ahead of each other. Hence why I say there is no debate really for Wlad being top 10. You can realistically even get him as high as third and still have a reasonable debate on why he's better than everyone outside of Ali and Louis.
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Originally posted by N!Ck F. View PostHe’s the definition of a Euro Trash boxer, right next to Calzaghe. They are complete opposites. Wlad, arguably the most overrated champion in history while Vitali one of the toughest. Wlad has 0 heart. As Roy Jones would say “he’s like a pit bull that can’t fight off the bottom” meaning Wlad can dish out punishment but as soon as he gets it he folds.
Wlad gets stopped, claims his opponent drugged his water...Vitali gets stppped, he runs around screaming at the ref begging him to let him continue. On paper and to casuals, like You, he was 10x better... factually, Vitali would of killed him in 3 rounds.
Vitali gives ANY heavyweight from ANY era hell and beats a lot/most of them, where as Wlad imo loses to...jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ali, Liston, Frazier, Norton, Holmes, Foreman, shavers, Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Tyson and Vitali....
that’s just off the top of my head probably missed another 5 at least. P4P you could make a list of about 25 guys clearly more skilled than Wlad.
He have never been knocked out cold, he keep getting back up. His courage and heart is undisputed.
P4P you can make a list of probably 25 guys more skilled than Tyson. Heavyweights are not as skilled as the lower weights with the exception of maybe Ali.
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