Wilder if you read this messsage move on. The world sees Joshua as a coward. Let him be. Joshua doesn't dictate anything and Hearn doesn't run anything. Move on.
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Originally posted by Holler View PostHe knocked back a contract that would, if he could beat Joshua away and then at home, would've seen him hold every heavyweight belt, with no further obligations and he would've banked close to $40m in the process.
That was the first one he knocked back, the second offered him more.
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Originally posted by EnglishOxide View PostWhy is nobody asking what Wilder makes from the $50m offer?
We know he only commands $2.1m vs Ortiz. We know he was going to land on a 50% split if the fight exceeded financial expectations.
But what was his guaranteed fee? $5m, $10m? Is it more than the $15m currently on the table for him? Why aren't you calling him a ducker for either a) turning down his highest payday or b) offering a deal which includes 50% to himself plus all home advantages?
The only bluff here is Haymon/Showtimes $50m guarantee or 50/50 split offer. Do you notice they never made an improved 60/40 offer?
Wilder-Joshua happens in Las Vegas, and between all of the revenues, $65m-$75m to the fighters isn't a difficult figure to reach.
The 50% only kicks in over $100m in fighter payouts; +2m homes on SHOPPV, matching Mayweather-McGregor on Sky Box Office, drawing +$20m at the gate, etc.
Joshua alone isn't drawing that type of money, so why wouldn't things be split 50/50 at such a level
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostHearn is going to embarrass Joshua
there is literally nobody left to fight
by embarking on a scrub-a-thon, it is obvious that Joshua wants nothing to do with Wilder..... then if he gets beaten by Wilder when they do fight, he will look real stupid
Why would Hearn increase his offer after BEATING Povetkin. If anything AJ value would have increased further.
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Originally posted by Raggamuffin View PostWilder if you read this messsage move on. The world sees Joshua as a coward. Let him be. Joshua doesn't dictate anything and Hearn doesn't run anything. Move on.
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"we want the fight to be next year so it is bigger."
but you're not getting any of that money . "i'll offer a small, flat fee for the biggest fight in boxing, around what joe parker made, and you'r enot going to take it. which is great, because i want to make 1/2 as much money 5X as many times fighting no hopers in england in front of fanboys who have only watched boxing since the '12 olympics and don't know any better."
hearn does not want this fight. we'll be lucky to see it in '19. you just don't do this if you want the fight.
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostWhy would they "improve an offer" if Joshua is already entitled to the first $50m cleared on the fight, lol?
Wilder-Joshua happens in Las Vegas, and between all of the revenues, $65m-$75m to the fighters isn't a difficult figure to reach.
The 50% only kicks in over $100m in fighter payouts; +2m homes on SHOPPV, matching Mayweather-McGregor on Sky Box Office, drawing +$20m at the gate, etc.
Joshua alone isn't drawing that type of money, so why wouldn't things be split 50/50 at such a level
Because Joshua is closer to drawing that money than Wilder is. He is the proven draw, albeit in a different market.
They could have just withdrawn or lowered the guarantee and offered a 60/40, 65/35 or 70/30 split to Joshua. If they truly wanted to bring Joshua to the US and buy home advantage for Wilder they could have done it. But they never even tried. They just tried to lowball him through that YouTube video he did. A PR play, and a well executed one at that.
There ain't no way Haymon is 'gambling or risking' on this fight. If he's offering a $50m guarantee he projects he's making money either on the fight itself or the investment in Wilder or Joshua.
If Wilder can do anywhere close to those numbers on his own then maybe he would be justified in trying to hold Joshua to his word.
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