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  • #11
    Well, go to the edge and see for yourself.

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    • #12
      How about the moon? Is it really made of cheese?

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      • #13
        Seems to me the flat earth trend is a typical conspiracy theory taken to the extreme.
        We all agree its good to question authority and think for yourself, but its as if people dont apply that to the conspiracy videos they watch.
        These videos throw 'facts', maths, and science at people who are not educated enough to verify what is true from what is false or distorted. It all seems very convincing.

        The idea that 99.9% of scientists, amateur astronomers, astronauts, and the millions of people working with satellite communications and in the many space agencies around the world are all either lying to us or somehow duped, is outright absurd.

        Every photo/video of the Earth from space is fake? Nah.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Pun View Post
          Well, go to the edge and see for yourself.
          That's the problem. You are not allowed to explore Antarctica. It is a vast wall of ice, guarded by all powers who signed the Antarctic Treaty.


          Originally posted by The Noose View Post
          Seems to me the flat earth trend is a typical conspiracy theory taken to the extreme.
          We all agree its good to question authority and think for yourself, but its as if people dont apply that to the conspiracy videos they watch.
          These videos throw 'facts', maths, and science at people who are not educated enough to verify what is true from what is false or distorted. It all seems very convincing.

          The idea that 99.9% of scientists, amateur astronomers, astronauts, and the millions of people working with satellite communications and in the many space agencies around the world are all either lying to us or somehow duped, is outright absurd.

          Every photo/video of the Earth from space is fake? Nah.
          1. Nobody has ever seen or released real imagery of a geostationary satellite in space.

          2. Simple maths and observation can clearly disprove the supposed curvature of the earth, but instead of believing what they witness themselves, people would rather accept the theories of geniuses who have somehow become unquestionable legends. 99.9% of scientists? There are many scientists, US Navy commanders and artillery experts who have supported the Flat Earth theory with hard evidence.

          3. The only hint of proof you have of the Earth being a spinning ball is the rhetorical question "how could they have done it?". Believe it or not, deceiving people is quite easy with a little teamwork.

          4. If you have experience with photoshop, adjust the image levels and review every photo NASA has given us of the Blue Marble and you will wonder how on Earth you originally believed the images were real. How does America change color so dramatically? How does America double in landmass then get smaller? It's really only your disbelief as to how and why this could be achieved that's holding you back from open-mindedly verifying this.

          What shape do you believe the Earth is? Perfectly spherical like in the pictures, or oblate/pear-shaped like scientists say?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by RiC-DiC View Post
            A group of Zionists and Freemasons, including Copernicus, Newton and Columbus, have been behind the promulgation of scientific theories that have contributed towards disproving the idea of intelligent creation.
            Newton was very religious. He is quoted with crediting a creator for the universe. If i remember correctly.

            What really matters is that this religious element has corrupted the scientific value of astrology and geography today. “The Earth is a globe though, it’s science”.
            Do you mean astronomy?


            One would assume that the science behind a spinning globe should have overwhelming photographic evidence with today’s technology. Surely, there are real pictures of the Earth from space? Unfortunately, you will not find any of said images.
            There are many photos of the whole Earth taken from space if you look for them.
            Every single photograph of the Earth from space has been computer generated. When the manual contrast (image levels) is adjusted in NASA’s supposed photo of the earth from the moon, the picture clearly shows a square painting of the Earth was inserted after the photo was taken. Since that very successful moon landing, NASA has provided the world with astonishing photos of the earth which show the USA has grown twice as large in landmass in a matter of decades. NASA even admitted to us that the blue marble was photoshopped and that “it had to be”. NASA’s lack of credibility causes curious minds like my own to question the validity of their “science”.
            I found this explanation for the changing photos.
            https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-bl...g-earth.t6616/

            Many people will watch one or two Neil deGrasse-Tyson videos and claim what he says is the truth, without knowing that this is the man who said the Earth was an oblate spheroid. He actually claimed that the Earth is “pear-shaped”. Isn’t it such a shame that every picture of the Earth NASA has given us has shown it as a perfect sphere?
            From a distance it looks like a perfect sphere, but technically, when precise measurements are made the shape is not a perfect sphere. Pear shaped but not that we can tell from just looking at photos.

            “Antarctica is the South Pole. It gets 24-hour sun like the North Pole!”. This is one of the many lies that have been fabricated to discredit the Flat Earth theory. Believe it or not, there are dis-informers on the internet who present false observations like this in videos, that are actually edited and sadly, some are even taken from the North Pole and horizontally flipped.
            So every video of 24 hour sun, and every person who has witnessed this is lying and fake? I know several people who have witnessed it themselves.

            If Antarctica is a continent, why hasn’t anybody ever flown over the South Pole to get to the other side of the globe? Isn’t it quite amusing how the Flat Earth makes sense of the globe’s nonsensical international flight paths?
            Maybe the restrictions to fly over a land where if you crash, there is no chance for survival nor is there nearby support is the reason.
            Plus...
            https://www.quora.com/Do-any-airline...ver-Antarctica
            “Why does the Sun go over the horizon? If the Earth was flat, wouldn’t we see the Sun from anywhere at any given time?”. This is the hardest concept for most people who believe in the globe Earth to come to terms with. As implied by Gleason’s map and the Geocentric model, the Sun is significantly smaller than the Earth and circles above us. This is all to do with your perspective. The further away things go, the smaller they become and the more atmosphere comes between them and yourself.
            The sun doesnt get smaller when it sets.

            Thanks to advanced optical zoom cameras, numerous studies and observations have blatantly disproved the alleged curvature of the Earth, which is supposedly an 8 inch drop per mile - squared.


            “It’s a mirage though”.

            The Chicago Skyline should not be visible, as pictured above, 60 miles away in Stevensville, MI.

            http://www.flatearthdebunked.com/for...icago-skyline/




            Originally posted by RiC-DiC View Post




            1. Nobody has ever seen or released real imagery of a geostationary satellite in space.
            If thats true, it proves all satellites are fake?
            I think even if there were many photos/videos you would believe the photos to be fake.

            Not sure what you would consider as proof.

            2. Simple maths and observation can clearly disprove the supposed curvature of the earth, but instead of believing what they witness themselves, people would rather accept the theories of geniuses who have somehow become unquestionable legends.
            Im terrible at maths. But i suggest you debate on a physics forum. Or you could post what calculations easily disprove the globe and i will look for you.


            3. The only hint of proof you have of the Earth being a spinning ball is the rhetorical question "how could they have done it?".

            I didnt ask that question. My scepticism about this huge global conspiracy is based on the old rule of the simplest explanation being the more probable one.

            You can come up with an incredibly elaborate alternative theory about nearly anything.

            4. If you have experience with photoshop, adjust the image levels and review every photo NASA has given us of the Blue Marble and you will wonder how on Earth you originally believed the images were real. How does America change color so dramatically? How does America double in landmass then get smaller? It's really only your disbelief as to how and why this could be achieved that's holding you back from open-mindedly verifying this.
            Hopefully addressed in the link above.
            Bit its not any belief that is holding me back. Its just that i think when presented with a fantastical concept like this, we should look to verify its claims before preaching about it.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by RiC-DiC View Post
              That's the problem. You are not allowed to explore Antarctica. It is a vast wall of ice, guarded by all powers who signed the Antarctic Treaty.
              Find another edge then!

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              • #17
                Originally posted by RiC-DiC View Post
                That's the problem. You are not allowed to explore Antarctica. It is a vast wall of ice, guarded by all powers who signed the Antarctic Treaty
                LOL Then go ahead sign a waver then explore all you can

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                • #18
                  You really have to be a special kind of moron to believe this crap.

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                  • #19
                    ... sure: the Earth is as flat as the palm of the hand...

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                    • #20
                      it's true that the theory of gravity needs improving due to anomalies that gravity couldn't accurately predict in space or explain at all.

                      But here on earth the law works just fine. It's been used to predict the results of countless experiments just fine.

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