Myth Buster volume 1: Canelo was green when he fought Mayweather

[Sweet Jones]

22 is as green as you can get. Just look at all the 22 year old boxers in history

Tyson beat Spinks and unified the HW division at 21
Hearns was 22 when he flatlined Cuevas for a strap
ODLH was fighting Ruelas and Hernandez for straps at 22
Mayweather beating Hernandez at 21 for straps
Meldrick Taylor was beating Buddy McGirt at 22
Trinidad was a world champion at 20
Vargas was beating Ike Quartey at 21-22 for straps

The list goes on.

[hugh grant]

He struggled with trout and many others who weren't good. He never looked great against anyone good so for sure green.
He was experienced, but only fighting bums similar to wilder in so many ways. Wilder was green when he fought stiverne. But wilder not weight drained

[therealpugilist]

Tyson beat Spinks and unified the HW division at 21
Hearns was 22 when he flatlined Cuevas for a strap
ODLH was fighting Ruelas and Hernandez for straps at 22
Mayweather beating Hernandez at 21 for straps
Meldrick Taylor was beating Buddy McGirt at 22
Trinidad was a world champion at 20
Vargas was beating Ike Quartey at 21-22 for straps

The list goes on.

doesnt fit their agenda bro.....do anything to discredit some one they dont like i guess

[Shadoww702]

Tyson beat Spinks and unified the HW division at 21
Hearns was 22 when he flatlined Cuevas for a strap
ODLH was fighting Ruelas and Hernandez for straps at 22
Mayweather beating Hernandez at 21 for straps
Meldrick Taylor was beating Buddy McGirt at 22
Trinidad was a world champion at 20
Vargas was beating Ike Quartey at 21-22 for straps

The list goes on.

And none of those guys beat were even CLOSE to Mayweather P4P #1 at time

[sunny31]

The other myth buster about this fight was that Floyd shut Canelo out or that it was very one sided, people only remember the last 4 rounds, the first 8 were very competitive. It was high speed chess, and at times Canelo was getting the better of it.

It's one of those fights where the commentators affected the perception of the general public, the fact that it was a boxing match automatically meant Floyd was dominating, when in reality that wasnt the case in the first half of the fight. After round 8 Canelo became mentally fatigued, he just couldn't keep up with Floyd's changing patterns, rhythm, etc

It was a lack of experience at that level, and had he fought Floyd from the 2017 version to now, this prime version of Canelo has learned to use his size and physicality, hes put the package together, and I think he beats any version of floyd as the bigger man, that was really the missing ingredient.

[therealpugilist]

The other myth buster about this fight was that Floyd shut Canelo out or that it was very one sided, people only remember the last 4 rounds, the first 8 were very competitive. It was high speed chess, and at times Canelo was getting the better of it.

It's one of those fights where the commentators affected the perception of the general public, the fact that it was a boxing match automatically meant Floyd was dominating, when in reality that wasnt the case in the first half of the fight. After round 8 Canelo became mentally fatigued, he just couldn't keep up with Floyd's changing patterns, rhythm, etc

It was a lack of experience at that level, and had he fought Floyd from the 2017 version to now, this prime version of Canelo has learned to use his size and physicality, hes put the package together, and I think he beats any version of floyd as the bigger man, that was really the missing ingredient.

great post, cant say he beats any version of floyd for the simple fact he wasnt in his mid 30s in his first fight at 154....he was closer to his prime, meaning better stamina higher punch output and more speed...reflexes sharper


bad style match up, and canelo always had and has trouble with mobility

their is more to boxing than size

[sunny31]

great post, cant say he beats any version of floyd for the simple fact he wasnt in his mid 30s in his first fight at 154....he was closer to his prime, meaning better stamina higher punch output and more speed...reflexes sharper


bad style match up, and canelo always had and has trouble with mobility

their is more to boxing than size

Size isnt the determining factor, maybe I didnt emphasis this, it's Canelo's overall skill set, the experience hes gained, coupled with him knowing how to utilise his size in a hypothetical match up with a smaller great fighter in Floyd. I think it's a big ask for any version of Floyd beating Canelo in his prime, which is probably right now as a 160-168lb fighter.

Floyd is clearly the better fighter and it's not even close, but h2h prime vs prime they really wouldnt be at the same weight and/or it would be Floyd moving up to or close to 160 (158) then I favour Canelo, that's what I meant.

[hugh grant]

Nelo now wouldnt try outbox floyd. He would walk him down like he tried with GGG at points in 2nd fight. Kovalev couldnt even keep nelo off.
Floyd couldnt keep maidana off him. Nelo would be over floyd like a rash. I cant see any version of floyd beating prime nelo.
BUt depends on what weight.

[GhostofDempsey]

Yet Floyd and Tank insist they were "too young" to fight Loma when Tank had already had 225 amateur fights, he was a champion at age 22, and even at the age of 24 Floyd was insisting Tank was too young for Loma. At age 25 that still seems to be the narrative/excuse for Tank ducking Loma.

[joseph5620]

22 is as green as you can get. Just look at all the 22 year old boxers in history

Muhammad Ali won the heavyweight championship as an underdog at 22. Mayweather won his first title at 21. Wilfred benitez 17. Tyson 20. I can go on and on

Canelo didn't win because he wasn't good enough to beat Mayweather. "Green" is just a laughable way to rewrite history and he was 23 not 22.