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Old 02-21-2020, 03:02 PM #21
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- -Tarver and Glen Johnson gave up their belts so the could fight each other for undisputed #1.

Wlad undisputed #1 with IBO.

What grade U in?
The one above you.
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:08 PM #22
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- -Tarver and Glen Johnson gave up their belts so the could fight each other for undisputed #1.

Wlad undisputed #1 with IBO.

What grade U in?
Wlad was never undisputed.
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:09 PM #23
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**** you Brits are so insecure.


Just go away this weekend. The world is watching the two best HW's in the world fight for supremacy. Go watch some youtube fights or Dave Allen replays.
Or they could even support their own in Fury but no, everything has to be about Joshua.....
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:10 PM #24
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Or they could even support their own in Fury but no, everything has to be about Joshua.....
They don't consider him as one of their own. That's why he's in the USA now.
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:12 PM #25
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The goal is to have everyone fight each other. We have 4 major belts, whoever holds everything is the man and the undisputed champ.
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:13 PM #26
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They mean nothing when fighters these goons ain't fans of have them. These guys narratives have wheels on for ease of movement.

But the fact is its only these goons who choose to give Joshua zero credit. Its a much bigger world than just these little salt slingers and in the rest of the world all roads still lead to Anthony Joshua.

The rest of the world wants undisputed between the winner and joshua. Its only these salty haters who pretend Joshua isn't relevant and his belts count for nothing and they are the ones who are claiming to not have an interest in undisputed.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:35 PM #27
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The lineal and Ring are "championships" while the others are "titles"
The dictionary definition of "title" in relation to sports is: the championship

So I've never subscribed to any of the semantics of championship vs. title. They're the same thing. That doesn't mean that all championships are equals. Being the tic tac toe champion doesn't carry the same prestige as being the chess champion. Just as being the XFL champion doesn't carry the same prestige as being the NFL champion. But trying to make a distinction between "championship" and title" isn't logical IMO since they actually mean the same thing.


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The WBA, WBC, WBO, IBF, and IBO don't rank the entire division from best to worst.

What they do is rank fighters following specific paths to their own belts, and they don't rank the champions from the other organizations.
The IBO isn't a recognized world title, so I'm not going to discuss their ratings any more than I'd discuss the IBA or WBF ratings.

As for the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO, they rate the fighters pursuing their titles. The champion is only allowed to fight top 15 contenders, so you can't waste spots on fighters disinterested in fighting for the title.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:38 PM #28
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lineal and ring arent even real belts man, ones made up by some ****ty magazine ran by golden boy and the other one doesnt even exist at all
And the WBO was made up by some criminal who was kicked out of the WBA for being in charge of the illegal bribery scheme that had been going on for years.
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Old 02-21-2020, 05:51 PM #29
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Maths was never a strong suit of mine but i remember studying percentages, with 75 percent being a higher proportion of something then 25 percent.
That was until i started browsing boxingscene and it seems this concept has been flipped on its head, being that the guy with 25 percent of the belts is considered the true champion and this fight on saturday supposedly decides who the number 1 fighter is in the division.
And some people going as far as to say the guy with 75 percent of the belts is actually ranked third in the division?
Or does having the wbc mean more than the other 3? If so i guess jermall charlo is the number 1 middleweight in the rankings, and Oubaali ahead of inoue at bantam.
Or do we just make up this crap up as we go along?
AJ is a champion with most of the belts and nobody can rightfully claim to be the full champion until they beat AJ in the ring. Just having many think someone would beat him is not enough. Wilder is a champion. Many say Fury is the lineal champion but I am not one of them. I considered him the lineal champ when he beat wlad but then he gave up the belts and left boxing for over two and one half years and did not fight anyone good until Wilder over 3 years later. When he did that I no longer considered him the lineal champ and neither does ring magazine who is so big on lineal. they list the champion of the heavyweights as vacant. Fury may have deserved to win the first fight with Wilder but he didn't so he is still not a champion to me. When the winner of the Fury-Wilder fight fights AJ then barring a draw we have a full champion but not before then.
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**** you Brits are so insecure.


Just go away this weekend. The world is watching the two best HW's in the world fight for supremacy. Go watch some youtube fights or Dave Allen replays.
U do realise fury is British? What exactly is there to be insecure about?
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