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Old 03-19-2020, 10:38 AM #1331
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Agree that young healthy people shouldn't panic they will die from this, and the media made things worse. But the numbers are worrying, because that 8000 figure comes early on, it will rise as the virus spreads. It's low now when health services are at their strongest. Once they get overloaded the death rate will climb.
That's the real concern. Individually, getting coronavirus would not be a big deal for most healthy people who aren't senior citizens. At scale, our health systems can only effecitvely manage care for so many people at once.

This thing spreads very easily, so without any type of social distancing we risk a lot of people getting sick at once, which would lead to diminishing availability and quality of care for those people. Leading to worse outcomes.

That's literally what happened with the Spanish Flu, which was just H1N1 (aka swine flu). Not the deadliest illness on a case by case comparison, but so easily and quickly spread that it was one of the worst pandemics of all time. Tens of millions dead worldwide.
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Old 03-19-2020, 10:42 AM #1332
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Comparisons at this point in time is worthless. Countries are at different stages of the virus impact.
Well in addition to that, the US has barely tested anyone when compared to other impacted countries. Of course our numbers are going to look better.
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Old 03-19-2020, 11:06 AM #1333
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I'll be happy to look at the data in a year.

As I've often stated here, "A sign of high intelligence is changing ones mind as the facts change."

But based on the current dataset, we are doing better than places with socialized medicine.

It is what it is.



You guys aren't socialist, at least according to your Prime Minister.....

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Interestingly enough, long before this outbreak happened Venezuela had toilet paper shortages. They still do.

And golly gee, they are a socialist economy.
Pretty sure Germany and Switzerland are doing better than the US. Not that the stats matter that much because all the countries have different testing criteria. A country that only tests people with severe symptoms is going to have a much higher death to case ratio.

US wasting tests on celebs.


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So according to the White House press conference it seems as though the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine is extremely effective at combating the Coronavirus. It's also a drug that has been used since 1934 and is very easy to access. That is extremely good news.


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Old 03-19-2020, 12:11 PM #1335
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So according to the White House press conference it seems as though the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine is extremely effective at combating the Coronavirus. It's also a drug that has been used since 1934 and is very easy to access. That is extremely good news.


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Yes, I posted about this a bit ago, Elon musk even tweeted it. Remdesivir is also having promising results along with another drug the Japanese and possibly Chinese are using. Nothing is for sure but that's the only way right now as a vaccine is impossible this year.
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Yes, I posted about this a bit ago, Elon musk even tweeted it. Remdesivir is also having promising results along with another drug the Japanese and possibly Chinese are using. Nothing is for sure but that's the only way right now as a vaccine is impossible this year.
Yes, if we can use these drugs to cut our death rates in half or less then that would be a huge victory until the vaccine is developed.
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Old 03-19-2020, 12:17 PM #1337
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Now they're shifting the blame to China and China is shifting the blame to the U.S. saying it was a U.S. military biological weapon smmfh. This is all childish. We need to be working on this. All that **** is irrelevant. Yes China ****ed up. Okay. Now tell us what you plan to do. You don't see S. Korea, Japan & Singapore complaining. They took action. Get serious
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For everybody saying the media made it worse. No they didn't. They should've been screaming from the rooftops three weeks ago! Politicians and the media haven't been making this as big a deal as it should be

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Pretty sure Germany and Switzerland are doing better than the US. Not that the stats matter that much because all the countries have different testing criteria. A country that only tests people with severe symptoms is going to have a much higher death to case ratio.
Testing or not, we can compare deaths caused by it.

Look, I'm not drawing any conclusions here as I'm saying we must wait until this is over and analyze the full dataset.

But I am analyzing the data so far, as I think that's a wise thing to do. I think there's a misconception I've already drawn a conclusion and am defending it. That's not true.

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US wasting tests on celebs.
How is that wasting tests??

First off, these are fellow human beings who can die of this virus. Of course they deserve testing.

But even if you so despise the rich you don't care about their lives, remember, they are still infected carriers if they have the virus and can expose other people. Better we know who the infected people are, regardless of social status, don't you think?
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Yes, I posted about this a bit ago, Elon musk even tweeted it. Remdesivir is also having promising results along with another drug the Japanese and possibly Chinese are using. Nothing is for sure but that's the only way right now as a vaccine is impossible this year.
Can you back that claim up?

I've not heard that one yet.
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