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Old 02-02-2020, 01:03 AM #61
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Yeah they were all passed prime because they arent the obes referring to. I'm referring to the legendary Barrera who was cpmingoff wins from Hamed, Kelly, Morales,Tapia and in his prime age at 28 and he blitzed him easy. Along with Marquez at 2004 and 2008 where he fought him when Marquez was the P4P no.2 and just recently KOed Vasquez.

They were prime ATGs at their bestweight and Manny beat them.

Floyd never fought a prime HOF. Manny fought prime ATGs.
Barrera was coming off of several wars when Manny finally beat him. I wouldn't say he was at his absolute prime just because he was 28 years old. Sugar Ray Leonard retired at 28 so age isn't always a factor when discussing prime. Miles on the clock matters too and Barrera had been in a lot of tough fights before Manny fought him.

And Manny got a draw against Marquez in their first fight don't count that as a win. Plus, Marquez isn't even in the hall of fame yet so stop counting that as a "hall of fame win" because it isn't.
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Barrera was coming off of several wars when Manny finally beat him. I wouldn't say he was at his absolute prime just because he was 28 years old. Sugar Ray Leonard retired at 28 so age isn't always a factor when discussing prime. Miles on the clock matters too and Barrera had been in a lot of tough fights before Manny fought him.

And Manny got a draw against Marquez in their first fight don't count that as a win. Plus, Marquez isn't even in the hall of fame yet so stop counting that as a "hall of fame win" because it isn't.
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Old 02-02-2020, 01:07 AM #63
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really? Floyd fought DLH in 07 Manny fought DLH in 08. Wow he got old in less than on year huh? lol

Floyd fought Hatton in Dec of 07. Manny fought him in Feb 09. So that was big ole year there also Hatton was older lol

Floyd fought SSM in May of 2010 Manny fought him in May of 2011, gee wiz....another whole year Wow they sure age quick according to your ignorant fuking logic....LMFAO!!!!!

And the funny thing is Manny fuked them up so bad they all retired after the ass kicking Manny put on them. They kept fighting after Floyd because it was just a boring decison loss to the, Well Hatton was TKOd by Floyd ref waved it off. He was out cold with Manny. lol

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You clearly dont understand my point. People say those guys were over the hill when Floyd fought them. If that is true then that means they were even more past it when Many fought them. So why is Manny getting praise and Floyd criticism? Simply because he beat them worse? He also fought some of them at lower weights after they were drained, he better beat them worse.
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You clearly dont understand my point. People say those guys were over the hill when Floyd fought them. If that is true then that means they were even more past it when Many fought them. So why is Manny getting praise and Floyd criticism? Simply because he beat them worse? He also fought some of them at lower weights after they were drained, he better beat them worse.
If thats the case youre right...I didnt see your point or i didnt read it that way. And youre right. Im a Mosley fan to the end and ive always said Mosley was dangerous for any fighter until he stop fighting.

A lot of Pac fans and Floyd fans criticizes the same thing when Floyd and Manny are similar in Manny ways in boxing. I disagree with things Floyd did and didnt do. And Things Manny did and didnt do. I only argue certain points. And ill agree if a point has been made.
Like today,,, The Floyd ducked Khan thing. Well So did Manny then. When after looking at it. **** neither one ducked Khan really. Politics hung them fights out for different reasons.

Then i found out why Floyd didnt fight Khan and i found out why Manny wasnt allowed to fight him.
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I was playing devils advocate idiot.
But like i say that's just one bullet point.

Like i say quit bringing up Floyd the guy who outclassed Manny and caused yall to make slow-motion bullshyt "why he really won" videos

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Barrera was coming off of several wars when Manny finally beat him. I wouldn't say he was at his absolute prime just because he was 28 years old. Sugar Ray Leonard retired at 28 so age isn't always a factor when discussing prime. Miles on the clock matters too and Barrera had been in a lot of tough fights before Manny fought him.

And Manny got a draw against Marquez in their first fight don't count that as a win. Plus, Marquez isn't even in the hall of fame yet so stop counting that as a "hall of fame win" because it isn't.
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Not the best but he is one of the best. I'm fine with that
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Jmm said Pac is without question the best of era. He'd know he's been in ring with both.
When Pac beat thurman many trainers and who's who in boxing had Pac t op3.
Barrera had Pac no1 or 2 with ali.

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