Todays welterweights can`t be compared with Ray Sugar Leonard and Ray Sugar Robinson

[hugh grant]

There was talk of Pac fighting ggg..Not sure how that started.
I have a feeling if Pac was a bit younger he might've he's a crazy guy. But maybe he wouldn't as he wanted a long as career as he could.

[JakeTheBoxer]

There was talk of Pac fighting ggg..Not sure how that started.
I have a feeling if Pac was a bit younger he might've he's a crazy guy. But maybe he wouldn't as he wanted a long as career as he could.

As I mentioned, Pacquiao is out of this conversation , he is a small man from lower divisions and he moved up like 8 times already.

But do you think Crawford or Spence can have Canelo a tough test? LOL, of course not.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Do you want to enjoy excellent fighters Spence and Crawford or wine that they aren't as good as two all time great boxers, one who is long dead and the other in his 60s.
SRR lost his middleweight title to a welterweight. SRL lost every round to Terry Norris when he was 35 years old. Prime
SRL lost to a lightweight champ moving up to welterweight named Roberto Duran. Neither Ray Robinson nor Leonard were perfect and they could be defeated as Robinson was 19 times. Watch old films of Leonard and Robinson if you are so dissatisfied with today's good welterweights. There is lots of film of their fights. Why do you say Pacquiao is now the best fighter at 147??? He is still good but he is very old and would be the underdog by the oddsmakers if he fought either Spence or Crawford because they would likely beat Pacquiao.

Duran is ATG level fighter, so I don`t know how does that loss hurd Leonard`s legacy. After that, he beat Duran twice.

Pacquiao is like 8 division champ, how is he not the best fighter at 147? he has the biggest legacy, far better than Spence and Crawford, not even compared.

[Bandman]

SRR lost 19 times im sure he can lose again

[The plunger man]

Do you want to enjoy excellent fighters Spence and Crawford or wine that they aren't as good as two all time great boxers, one who is long dead and the other in his 60s.
SRR lost his middleweight title to a welterweight. SRL lost every round to Terry Norris when he was 35 years old. Prime
SRL lost to a lightweight champ moving up to welterweight named Roberto Duran. Neither Ray Robinson nor Leonard were perfect and they could be defeated as Robinson was 19 times. Watch old films of Leonard and Robinson if you are so dissatisfied with today's good welterweights. There is lots of film of their fights. Why do you say Pacquiao is now the best fighter at 147??? He is still good but he is very old and would be the underdog by the oddsmakers if he fought either Spence or Crawford because they would likely beat Pacquiao.

Prime was not 35 if you go back 30 years.....Ali was done at 35 , Holmes was done , hagler was well done ,Pryor etc these fighters boxed 2 times a year at least and had to fight 15 rounders not 12 rounders, they also never had the route of getting 3rd or 4th championship belt...it was just 2 belts and they also consistently boxed higher consistent and better fighters.
The environment was a lot harder for those fighters.....E.G Amir Khan , John molina , broner , joseto lopez , these fighter would never have have got the amount of chances at the top level in the 80 or earlier because they kept losing before.
I like you bolio but don’t talk out your ass son.
There are no fighters today except a lomachenko , gonzalez or maywether , pacquaio who could have made a dent and carried over to that era....SRR,SRL , Duran are different animals.
Porter took spence life and death and he was pacquaios sparring partner in the past.

[LoadedWraps]

RSL and RSR were able to move up to middleweight and take on champs in wars.

I can`t imagine Spence fighting GGG or Canelo. They both give him a terrible beating in one sided fight.

Pacquiao is the best fighter at 147, but he is small man and he is already fighting 3 divisions above his natural division.

There is no such monster as prime Hearns, RSL, RSR at 147 nowadays.

Well no **** sherlock.

ATGs are ATGs for a reason and 147 is nothing special since Floyd left. Water is wet, sky is blue.

[The D3vil]

Well duh,

Those are only the 2 greatest 147lbs. who ever lived.

And bullshxt that Pac's the best at 147.

Arum kept him away from Crawford at 140 4 years ago, so you know he doesn't want it now.

He also hasn't fought Spence for a reason.

Manny isn't even a slam dunk over Porter or Garcia at this point.

[THC]

you picked two of the greatest welterweights of all time...

He did, most def.

[_Rexy_]

He did, most def.

Basically like saying “light heavyweights suck! None could move up and win the heavyweight championship like Spinks did!!”

[ztrac79]

There aren't too many welterweights in the history of the sport who compare to Sugar Ray Robinson and Sugar Ray Leonard.

Can’t argue with that